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Elliot was president in 1993...not collins

What you say Kruds regarding  1994 may actually be the case.. do you have a link to show that's what happened (Collins dobbed) or is it an educated guess?

What you say Kruds regarding  1994 may actually be the case.. do you have a link to show that's what happened (Collins dobbed) or is it an educated guess?

What do you do in that position?
It's a bit of a dilemma

You go to a new job.
You know that there is information that you have that could affect your old club.

Do you keep it concealed....If it comes to light down the track and you've kept it hidden you're out the door....sacked.
or
Do you go in and say "I know of a problem we have.....How do we fix it?"

Hahaha you are dreaming if you think he was thinking of doing the best thing for someone other than himself. He is a self serving prick.

What is it that you think the secretary/manager does? He was in charge of the salaries. President ultimately signs off on it, but it was collos job

Two points....

Did it play out as Kruddler said?
I'd like to know.

If that's the case then that's exactly what I'm suggesting...he made a very wise personal career choice.

Tracked down this from John Elliotts book 'Big Jack: My sporting life'

"Collins, who had been CEO of Carlton up to the end of 1994, knew that in those days all sorts of payments were made outside the system - because he was making them. In 1993, Carltons salary cap figures were known only by Ian Collins.

But at the beginning of 1994, when Collins went to the AFL, the first thing he did was indentify that the Carlton Football Club had breached the salary cap by about $50,000, and fine us. I was absolutely incensed. He had given us no indication of a problem, he had finalised the numbers and nobody else knew them."

In answer to your question Lods...
"I can only surmise he wanted to demonstrate to his new employer that he was no longer looking after the Carlton Football Club."

If that's the case then that's exactly what I'm suggesting...he made a very wise personal career choice.

And hence well and truly looking after himself and his future. Only the blind would not see the trend here.

Tracked down this from John Elliotts book 'Big Jack: My sporting life'

"Collins, who had been CEO of Carlton up to the end of 1994, knew that in those days all sorts of payments were made outside the system - because he was making them. In 1993, Carltons salary cap figures were known only by Ian Collins.

But at the beginning of 1994, when Collins went to the AFL, the first thing he did was indentify that the Carlton Football Club had breached the salary cap by about $50,000, and fine us. I was absolutely incensed. He had given us no indication of a problem, he had finalised the numbers and nobody else knew them."

In answer to your question Lods...
"I can only surmise he wanted to demonstrate to his new employer that he was no longer looking after the Carlton Football Club."

I'll accept that...but given the relationship between the two, the source is dubious at best.

Bottom line...If Collins is the demon he's painted why is he welcomed by so many at the club....he appeared in promotional material with club legends at the start of the season?

I'll accept that...but given the relationship between the two, the source is dubious at best.

Bottom line...If Collins is the demon he's painted why is he welcomed by so many at the club....he appeared in promotional material with club legends at the start of the season?

He's presenting jumpers?

I'll accept that...but given the relationship between the two, the source is dubious at best.

Bottom line...If Collins is the demon he's painted why is he welcomed by so many at the club....he appeared in promotional material with club legends at the start of the season?

He's presenting jumpers?

I don't think Big Jack hates Elliott as much as he has every right too.