I have heard whispers from people who know family of Murph. All is not right down at Carlton. Thing is, the playing group is turning on itself because they are behaving as they always behave. Misbehave and sack the coach. The unfortunate thing they dont know? Mick is there, and he is there to stay. You dont walk the line, you can walk out the door. Starting with the most talented one of all.
Murphy? Absolutely zero chance he is going anywhere.
No I dont believe he is going anywhere.
I have heard whispers from people who know his family. About the playing group. The starting with the most talented one of all, is me being a little bit facetious regarding people labelling Chris Yarran the most talented.
It was wrong to make him sub, yes a mistake by Mick. Mick has frrkd this one up as much as many wont accept it.
You missed it. I will give you another chance.
Goat. How do you think the top clubs would have dealt with Yarrans behaviour?
At Sydney he would have been dropped, and the playing group would have supported it in fact they may even have driven it. The message gets in faster because everyone is saying the same thing.
At Carlton, he became a sub, and almost overnight we lost Jeff, and Eddie's form to go with it, and correct me if Im wrong, but Andrew Walker has not reach the lofty heights he set earlier on either. Our club is run by the players. The Carlton world urinates in their pockets, and they get away with what they like.
I have heard whispers from people who know family of Murph. All is not right down at Carlton. Thing is, the playing group is turning on itself because they are behaving as they always behave. Misbehave and sack the coach. The unfortunate thing they dont know? Mick is there, and he is there to stay. You dont walk the line, you can walk out the door. Starting with the most talented one of all.
See I saw Yarran in the change rooms after the game, he could hardly walk and his lower leg was iced to the max. Does he qualify for some leeway as well? Pretty sure everyone just wrote it off and said stiff sht, you take the field it's bad luck.
With regards to murphy's supposed ankle problem from the Saints game, he had 4 weeks off I'm sure that would've healed it.
Fair enough, but what does me believing Murphy is not 100% have to do with Yarran?
For anyone else, if they are not ready to play, then dont play. I couldnt care who your name is, if you declare yourself fit, and give me nothing, then there is hell to pay, and perhaps this is why Malthouse mentioned him post press conference in amongst Eddie, Jeff and Yarran.
Sorry, in my opinion, Murphy is not fit, and shouldnt be playing. I decided this whilst watching him "run" against Freo.
There is more than one reason why he had such a bad game, and Crowley is only part of the equation. When a player like Murphy is limping around the field for more than half the game, there is a problem. I suspect it has been one for him since before we played Port Adelaide too.
For too long Carlton Football club has been about individuals.
Yarran is talented, and its a testament to why he has to go if he is going to just "go through the motions" if he indeed wants out.
I want 22 soldiers who despise losing to the point where they will play well in spite of what is going on rather than will play poorly to spite their current coach knowing they have one foot out the door.
So how is Yarran different to anyone else. Why is he Malthouse's scapegoat? He blamed the loss to the Scum on him. Malthouse is picking and choosing who he goes for, just like EB accuses Yarran of picking and choosing when he goes. Hypocrite much? What's good for Yazz is good for everyone else, how about singling out a few others Malthouse. How about Murphy's pi55weak efforts to tackle earlier in the year? Bryce's lack of heart? He's probably worried he may 'lose' these players if he goes after them but I get the feeling he never really liked yarran anyway and is happy to risk him. Unfortunately, it's had the domino effect with his fellow 'Amigos' and backfired on him.
For too long Carlton Football club has been about individuals.
Malthouse knows a bit more about sending a message to a playing group than we do, and I think that our allegiance to this playing group is not worth it for ANY of them, and Im backing the coach. This mob failed to extract a digit to beat the competitions whipping boys last season and ultimately ousted a club legend as coach in the process. Side with them if you like, but for me its line in the sand time with the playing group. Why? Because they continually fail to draw the line themselves, and decide that they leave it to others. So Malthouse and I are drawing the line for them.
You can tow the line and play Malthouse football or you can feck off, and that starts with Chris Judd and finished with Marcus Davies, and goes through every player in between.
Its time we did the right thing rather than stick with fickle talent. After all, Geelong were able to lose Gary Ablett Junior, and go on to win another flag. Hawthorn sacrificed Gary Ablett Senior and setup their team for 5 premierships. Perhaps Yarran will be the catalyst in our team transforming into a truly galvanised unit.
Then and only then should we worry about whether or not the coach is worth the money we are paying him.
This isnt about him being treated differently, this is about treating them all the same. He may be starting with Yarran as he might be the toughest nut to crack. Perhaps it might be that despite what we think, he might never be the sort of player that we need him to be. Who knows? I bet you the coach has more of an idea than we do.
For too long Carlton Football club has been about individuals.
Yarran is talented, and its a testament to why he has to go if he is going to just "go through the motions" if he indeed wants out.
I want 22 soldiers who despise losing to the point where they will play well in spite of what is going on rather than will play poorly to spite their current coach knowing they have one foot out the door.
In any case both subs came on and took the game by the scruff of the neck.
Ours come on and all you hear are crickets. Something definately wrong between the ears of our boys. I have not been uber impressed with a debutant since Jeffy Garlett made his debut.
Port have taken no time. Sort of makes a mockery of the 'new gameplan takes time' theory. Also makes you wonder where we might be had we got Hinkley and not the Dark Lo....whoops I mean Malthouse!
Anyway Shades, can we please change the thread title to the 'Era Over Thread' cause this group is going nowhere.
Port have a good midfield...Boak has been a good choice as skipper unlike Murphy and both Hartlett and Wingard have excellent skills.....you add a new tough in and under in Ollie Wines plus workmanlike players in Broadbent and Cornes and you have some nice balance....only Cornes is a genuine tagger the rest are offensive players who win games....you can add the kid Grigg who came on and helped beat the Crows to that group as well. Its mainly young kids who are very skillful.......they will belt us in the last game....
Ahem, correct me if Im wrong, but Grigg played for the crows, and you are thinking of Colquhoun instead.
Take a look at Jarred Petrenko. He lead the way in terms of lifting the tackling pressure.
On the other side you have chad winguard. Both have been huge. Chris Yarran could have twice the talent but doesnt even have half the ticker and both have had a major say in their sides fortunes in this game of footy, and Yarran has NEVER shown this level of commitment to the cause.
Gibbs bashing starts when it was clear he was one of our best and beat (what should have been) Freo primary avenue to goal .
that episode with ballantyne stopped our momentum and gave it straight to them.
For what a ripped shirt?
It was crapful. Rip his head of at least and cop a week or two. Not his shirt.
Really?
Ballantyne drags in at least one of those every week.
We were 10 points down going into the last quarter.
Again, people don't realize what a good player Mayne is and how important he is to Freo.
If the rest of the side had done its job then Gibbs' efforts would have been the difference, but alas Bryce has to cop the blame for 5 guys who didn't turn up !
Yes really. Premiership sides dont make massive blues like that when the game is hot and you are riding the momentum.
Undisciplined one upmanship.
That one moment changed the game. We had to claw back to ten points because that incident resulted in a couple of quick goals to Freo and their biggest lead of the match. We should have been up, not fighting our way back AGAIN.
