Carlton Supporters Club

You ask that question with motive.

It's not a relevant because as you know there are people on both sides of the argument in every valid religion.

You are on a slippery slope PaulP, why introduce religion?

Thry has the right to hold any religion and belief he likes as long as it operates within the laws of the land, and nobody better than yourself should know that!

All you need to go over the edge is introduce racism!

Is it though?

Should I just believe you because you are telling me it is?

I dont like being told what to believe.

It reminds me of living in a fascist dictatorship.

+1 its irritating me to the point of madness.

The other thing that is irritating me, is the fact that the "no" vote boosters are getting no right to campaign (I don't care what basis is used to justify that, its wrong).

You can't have a proper election by silencing one side so why would this apply in a discussion which is ironically promoting marriage equality?

It seems to have missed the point somewhat and the meaning of the word.

Paul
Not all groups are represented equally and they won't whilst the distribution in the population isn't equal.
But here is the thing, all polls point to most Australian's agreeing with the cause, but like every cause, it has to follow process.

It doesn't matter if it was equal or not equal.
Because people have been bullied in the past (or now) it doesn't excuse passing that to another person.
As for the 'fight' being fair. You are right, it isn't, but not in the way you are stressing.

It isn't poo pooing as you call it over name calling. It is bullying and it is specifically trying to impact peoples lives for their views. A gay couple apparently come out against gay marriage and was apparently hounded with calls of being homophobic etc.
What if it was to turn into a slanging match on both sides? There is nothing dignified and respectful about that.

Nothing can be said that justifies the attacks on people for their views. It is unnecessary and ridiculous.

Well hopefully they win the vote and they can stop hijacking Father's day and my Facebook page.

I understand why it happens also, but I don't respect or empathise.
A cause starts to lose people once it loses moral high ground and attacking people and their livelihood was enough to do it for me

Paul

On neither side is bullying an okay practise and I agree that those fed up have often been bullied along the process, but you can't take that out on someone expressing an opinion.

Their is a platform to try and facilitate change and it can be done respectfully by all parties.
Otherwise people are going to get their backs up.

If this is handled correctly the change will occur (I think it will regardless), but there is absolutely no excuse for bullying at all.

Yes they did, it's called bullying, and the very side doing the name calling claims they are victims of it!

There is an old, a very old saying; "The smeller is the fella!"

There are no excuses for physical or verbal abuse.

Two wrongs do not make a right, leave that to the anarchists!

Do you blame them for going out of their way to attack people for their views or beliefs?
Isn't that exactly the thing we should be fighting against?

Getting the sh1ts doesn't allow for people to be ar$eholes.

I am sticking by not voting for all the reasons outline Paul and the moment I thought it was
A) Binding
B) Done without prejudice for or against peoples right to vote based on their own guidelines.

Then I would vote yes.

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I was indifferent to the whole idea, I don't see how a piece of paper matters so much that we can waste hundreds of millions of dollars on such an issue. This isn't like the right to vote!

Especially when the country has so many other more important issues that could be easily addressed with that money.
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