All ready for action on Sunday.
Look at that crap from Lang
Look at that crap from Lang
Yep, first shot , need a good start & serve that crap up, brings the whole feel down
Hooker beats McKay in a foot race to the ball, how does that happen?
Kick in weak as p!$$, amateur hr has commenced.
It was a rubbish kick but Setterfield didnt even bother to try.
Nice lead & goal to Kruze, simple stuff top result
Ed tagging Merrit
Wow we get a free
Zero pressure and desperation to win the footy or lay a tackle.
Our lack of system, especially delivery into the 50 continues to frustrate
McKay, Casboult and Charlie at the fall of a quick ball into F50 get outmarked by Ambrose!
That's got nothing to do with the kicker or the coach!
My god we are awful to watch.
Our lack of system, especially delivery into the 50 continues to frustrate
IT is an ongoing embarrassment...
Well we cannot use the ball any worse and still be staying in a game!
Nice one Harry , long goal on the siren, will important, about to bucket down
We’re lucky the bombers are playing bad too
Reckon both sides know they are as bad as each other
My god we are awful to watch.
Yes, we aren't last on the ladder by accident.
Geez fwd play is poor. Getting the i50's but intercepted by Mr nobody :-\
Nice finish eventually by H.
Newy gave away an easy goal with kick in to Heppel.
Serious amateur error
Is Lang injured again?
Sorry, but we've two and at times three 200cm marking targets inside F50, and despite fast entries with one on ones not a contested mark from 17 entries except for as BT describes "the broken SpecialK!"
200cm types are useless if all they do is take marks on the lead!
Is Lang injured again?
Our present outside runners, like O'Brien, Polson and Murphy, look like Hodge compared to Lang!
He's a complete scrub!
Geez fwd play is poor. Getting the i50's but intercepted by Mr nobody :-\
Nice finish eventually by H.
Newy gave away an easy goal with kick in to Heppel.
Serious amateur error
Intercepted? We’re kicking it straight to them
Hard to watch, lack of composure in our players, more hope & hack than some drilled system
Where’s the 50 for McKay?
In our D50 they are in the front for the crumbs, in our F50 they are in the front for the crumbs, we are lambs to the slaughter!
The weather front has arrived, we'll be no good in the wet compared to them.
So we have picked a new small to lob the ball to this week when we are outnumbered.
Fasolo your turn mate!
You’d think hat once it starts raining we could at least change our game play to man up and play tight. But no. Still standing off in zones hoping for miskicks
You’d think hat once it starts raining we could at least change our game play to man up and play tight. But no. Still standing off in zones hoping for miskicks
Amazing isn't it- they've got men all on their pat everywhere....
Charlie is so crap at the moment he's of more value to the opposition!
Amazing isn't it- they've got men all on their pat everywhere....
Our players are simply too dumb to position themselves or adjust.
Amazing isn't it- they've got men all on their pat everywhere....
So do we. But ours are just having a gentle jog in the park and watching the game.
Setterfield just allowed Langford to waltz through.
Setterfield just allowed Langford to waltz through.
Haven't seen any reason why Setterfield was so highly reguard end so far?
Our attempt at wet weather footy has so far been pretty poor.
Setterfield just allowed Langford to waltz through.
But everyone tells me just wait he will be a star!
Seen nothing from him yet.
Another overrated Carlton kid.
Hard to get enthused by the game, rain taking any skill level out.
Not getting possession.
Not tackling.
Not going to win.
Hard to get enthused by the game, rain taking any skill level out.
What skill level?
Hard to get enthused by the game, rain taking any skill level out.
we don't have any skills so can't take them away
we really lack leadership an old wise head to lead the young players.
We don't hurt opponents in tackles or contests, they just run on to the next contest unhindered!
Hooker beats Fasolo in a foot race!
On track for yet another goalless quarter
So hard to watch your team play like this :-[
What a great effort by Marchbank.
What a great effort by Marchbank.
He's got the size but not the attitude to play that role, he's like a 200cm small defender!
2 points for the whole quarter. Wow.
My god what a waste of time
Newman, plowman continue their great form (a joke)
Fazzy boy looks a mile off
Is Bolton coaching the rest of the game from ground level?
Spiritless, soulless, directionless, just plain awful. Weiters, Kruze, Ed and Cas ok, the rest may as well shower now and go home.
Another pathetic effort by our club.
Won’t even play tight and hard in the wet.
Is Bolton coaching the rest of the game from ground level?
Is he coaching?
Games over fellas. Boys not interested, I’m sick of seeing blokes go half paced, particularly when chasing. Dow being prime example.
Aetterfield needs to figure out that it’s not a 25 degree sunny day
He's got the size but not the attitude to play that role, he's like a 200cm small defender!
We have defenders in the AFLW team that go harder than him and Plowman.
Fazzy boy looks a mile off
Anyone with only half of one good eyeball watching the last few VFL games could tell you that, and we've seen first hand what "Lang's good inside football" means!
Spiritless, soulless, directionless, just plain awful. Weiters, Kruze, Ed and Cas ok, the rest may as well shower now and go home.
Yep. Insipid. 1-10 looking highly likely
Another batch of 10 to be shown the door at year end
F50 entries are hopeless - turning it over time and time again. Seemed to be gradually drifting off into oblivion as that 2Q went on. Rudderless I'm afraid.
We are an unwatchable rabble.
If we lose this and it appears highly likely, Bolton needs to gone by Monday morning.other than playing this zoned garbage which hasn’t worked for 4 years, I’m at a loss to know what his game plan is.
As far as the overpaid hacks who masquerade as footballers representing a once proud club, to paraphrase Warnie,
They can’t kick to advantage, they can’t handball to a player not under pressure, they can’t stick a tackle, and they totally lack the desire and will to win.
The problems are endemic and won’t be fixed overnight but a new coach with a new direction would be a start.
I'm glad I didn't go, and I'll be turning this off very soon!
This is like watching a fat old man chase his dog down the street.
Disposal efficiency 63%
We are an unwatchable rabble.
.other than playing this zoned garbage which hasn’t worked for 4 years, I’m at a loss to know what his game plan is.
X 2
Do we have a game plan ,
Not watching, only listening, but do we have AFl standard players? Fasolo 2 poss to half time, and the guy playing on him has 16 with 5 marks and is BOG. Kennedy 4 poss, in weather that should suit him. Lang 5 poss, not sure there are any conditions that suit him. We have too many who do nothing
Our midfield is sh1thouse.
Apart from Cripps not one other player is afl standand.
Fisher, Kennedy, Lang and Dow - are they playing?
setterfield - not even vfl standard.
Reckon apart from Cripps only weitering get a game in the top 4 team. And maybe Harry.
That’s it.
As stupid as this probably sounds we look as though we need a major clean out and full rebuild.
One absolute beyond question. Getting Fasolo was a VERY VERY bad decision.
One absolute beyond question. Getting Fasolo was a VERY VERY bad decision.
It looks like the whole list has caught poor attitude and mindset is clearly contagious!
How the feck can a kick OOBOTF be play on to advantage?
We have defenders in the AFLW team that go harder than him and Plowman.
F*** off.
Plowman is back playing weeks after getting his face caved in while going back with the flight of the ball, knowing he was going to get crunched.
He puts himself in similar positions every week.
He may not be the most physically intimidating player, but to say he doesn't go hard is bollocks....he has a fair size given the above.
Im done, I cant watch anymore.
F50 entries are hopeless - turning it over time and time again. Seemed to be gradually drifting off into oblivion as that 2Q went on. Rudderless I'm afraid.
The Drugcheats vfl side know it too. They'll give us an almighty hiding and Crippa will plan to go to WC
Pathetic.
Can't believe it, actually fell asleep watching this ...I see I haven't missed much
The media had some rumors in hand last week that never surfaced, allegations that in preparation for our game forecast to be wet at the MCG we trained indoors out of the rain!
Looks like it!
I think it's the wrong direction, but it's hard to see BB surviving this sort of game!
Fwiw, it's hard to see about 20% of our supporter base surviving this sort of game!
Politically incorrect as this comment may be judged.
It looks like the whole list has caught depression, attitude and mindset is clearly contagious!
How the feck can a kick OOBOTF be play on to advantage?
I'm talking football ability, NOTHING else and resent that remark >:(
Lang again from the same spot... how much do these blokes get paid ?
Remember in days gone by when we actually kicked goals, even in this type of weather, we just have no idea how to win
Pretty grim in here but scores are low.
Cripps is down,
Essendon aren't playing much better than us....
And it's wet.
A couple of goals needed quickly.
I'm talking football ability, NOTHI(NG else and resent that remark >:(
Didn't mean to upset you, but the other two of the three will still apply I'll fix it up!
Ffs Lang misses another easy set shot.
Persistence by Dow and Charlie. 3rd goal. Incredible
Is this the worst team ever? Farking dumb dumb dumb
3 goals against a arch rival without 6 of its top 8 players with over a quarter to go.
Rebuild is officially a fail. No not excuses no more being positive for the sake of it.
Even Cripps doesn’t care anymore. Getting carved by a second gamer.
We are Farked.
It’s been a decade of crap.
Finally we have a half decent list but they are just not taught properly. Coaching problem - all of them should go, not just Bolton.
The media had some rumors in hand last week that never surfaced, allegations that in preparation for our game forecast to be wet at the MCG we trained indoors out of the rain!
Looks like it!
I think it's the wrong direction, but it's hard to see BB surviving this sort of game!
Fwiw, it's hard to see about 20% of our supporter base surviving this sort of game!
Its just a fitness thing. Training in the wet takes it out of you. If you want to be fresh for the weekend, it makes sense.
Of course, you still need to factor in some wet weather football practice at some stage. Turn the sprinklers on if you need to.
My advice, not that they would listen, is Bolton gone Monday.
Barker to coach next week the last round before the bye.
See if Scott wants to coach and if yes, then give him the job to start with the first game after the bye. Let him meet the players next week and spend the two- three weeks getting to know them personally and to introduce them to his game plan.
I’m sure he has watched them enough to know a lot about their abilities.
This gives him the rest of the season to work with them and hopefully improve them so that he and they and the club as a whole get a brand new start next year for what I would hope would be a better year.
Will the board accept that they have got the wrong bloke coaching them, I’m not holding my breath.
I said this in previous posts and I’ll say it one more time.
I knew we were stuffed in the first quarter against Richmond when our coach couldn’t get our players fired up enough to run out in front of 85,000, represent our club with pride, give our 60,000 members some hope, and score at least one goal in the first quarter.
Yes we have put in a few nice efforts and should have beaten Gold Coast but McGovern wandering away from the goal square which cost us the game, is symptomatic of the lack of discipline and the coaches inability to have the players in tune with their responsibilities in a situation such as that one.
To those who say that all some of us do is complain and what is the alternative, at the risk of repetition, here we go.
Bolton gone. Director of football Judd gone. Most of not all the assistant coaches, gone. Appoint Scott. Give him free reign to appoint who he wants in the hope that they can reach the players the necessary skills required of a professional footballer.
If players like Dow who lacks kicking skills and Fisher and Cunningham and others who can’t stick a tackle can’t improve, trade them.
And this would only be a start.
We supporters who help pay the players salaries need to see value for money.
If we don’t, and the club make no effort to improve the rubbish that we have been subjected to for far too long, then they can say goodby to 20, 000 of those members next year,
As John Kennedy once famously said “ do something “ !!!
It's wet conditions and CheatsFC slow talls like Hooker and Hurley are getting 40m clear of opponents!
Thank God. Charlie goal ,good positioning son
My advice, not that they would listen, is Bolton gone Monday.
Barker to coach next week the last round before the bye.
See if Scott wants to coach and if yes, then give him the job to start with the first game after the bye. Let him meet the players next week and spend the two- three weeks getting to know them personally and to introduce them to his game plan.
I’m sure he has watched them enough to know a lot about their abilities.
This gives him the rest of the season to work with them and hopefully improve them so that he and they and the club as a whole get a brand new start next year for what I would hope would be a better year.
Will the board accept that they have got the wrong bloke coaching them, I’m not holding my breath.
I said this in previous posts and I’ll say it one more time.
I knew we were stuffed in the first quarter against Richmond when our coach couldn’t get our players fired up enough to run out in front of 85,000, represent our club with pride, give our 60,000 members some hope, and score at least one goal in the first quarter.
Yes we have put in a few nice efforts and should have beaten Gold Coast but McGovern wandering away from the goal square which cost us the game, is symptomatic of the lack of discipline and the coaches inability to have the players in tune with their responsibilities in a situation such as that one.
To those who say that all some of us do is complain and what is the alternative, at the risk of repetition, here we go.
Bolton gone. Director of football Judd gone. Most of not all the assistant coaches, gone. Appoint Scott. Give him free reign to appoint who he wants in the hope that they can reach the players the necessary skills required of a professional footballer.
If players like Dow who lacks kicking skills and Fisher and Cunningham and others who can’t stick a tackle can’t improve, trade them.
And this would only be a start.
We supporters who help pay the players salaries need to see value for money.
If we don’t, and the club make no effort to improve the rubbish that we have been subjected to for far too long, then they can say goodby to 20, 000 of those members next year,
As John Kennedy once famously said “ do something “ !!!
Disagree on Barker taking over.
My advice, not that they would listen, is Bolton gone Monday.
Barker to coach next week the last round before the bye.
This the bloke currently responsibly for our midfield structures! :o
Surely enough is enough....they look like rabbits in the headlights....they just don't know how to play footy under this guy >:(
Well done Stocker , great smother and kick to , pity we couldn't convert
Its just a fitness thing. Training in the wet takes it out of you. If you want to be fresh for the weekend, it makes sense.
Yep....and it has worked so well hasn’t it.
That's 2 for Lang, need to convert any chances we get.
Lang has missed all 3 of his direct shots on goal from exactly the same spot...learned nuffin :o :o :o
Umpire says ‘sorry’ instead of letting us get the ball???
Is our captain playing?
Can you imagine what this game would be like if Weitering wasn't out there?
To Barbs and LP,
With great respect, can’t you people read?
I said you get him to coach for the ONE game before the bye until hopefully we can get Scott.
Did I say anywhere that I think Barker is good?
I don’t give a stuff who does the coaching for the one game. Pick anyone. His was a name of a coach that I know works there. You want Dale Amos, pick him. I don’t care. It’s for hopefully one week.
If you two can’t understand that, then you are no better than the mob out on the ground who can’t understand the coaches game plan.
Umpire says ‘sorry’ instead of letting us get the ball???
Ball didn’t go out of bounds. It’s called play on you dumb arse umpire.
I feel sorry for these players, Dow shows some real skill but they just can’t do anything with their skills.
I don’t know, I’m dumbfounded and depressed, again, on a Sunday afternoon to have zero care from anyone at the CFC!
Is our captain playing?
He’s as over it as we are.
Hard to get excited by this, for a season that seemed to promise so much , this is a snooze fest
-2 scoring shots in the wet.
Wish it looked like we were close. The gut wrenching truth is we are so far off it's comical.
C'mon Blues. Dig deep.
Follow Kruezers comments "win for our fans"
To Barbs and LP,
With great respect, can’t you people read?
I said you get him to coach for the ONE game before the bye until hopefully we can get Scott.
Did I say anywhere that I think Barker is good?
I don’t give a stuff who does the coaching for the one game. Pick anyone. His was a name of a coach that I know works there. You want Dale Amos, pick him. I don’t care. It’s for hopefully one week.
If you two can’t understand that, then you are no better than the mob out on the ground who can’t understand the coaches game plan.
Also with the greatest of respect, yes I can. Very well.
Can you?
I said I don’t won’t barker taking over. I didn’t say for the year as it wasn’t what you suggested. I don’t want him for a week, a day or a training session. When Bolton departs Barker goes too. I could almost even accept dropping Barker first and seeing if it makes a difference before moving Bolton on. Our midfield is a disgrace and he is a responsible.
I feel sorry for these players, Dow shows some real skill but they just can’t do anything with their skills.
I don’t know, I’m dumbfounded and depressed, again, on a Sunday afternoon to have zero care from anyone at the CFC!
At least it’s not Friday and we are depressed all weekend.
Soccer in the wet, but deemed intentional out of bounds by our friend the umpire?
We have a qtr to find some face in this game, do we have the drive?
This is screwed. I am done with this crap. We are a bunch of gutless soft pretenders. Deserve everything we have coming.
We have a qtr to find some face in this game, do we have the drive?
No
1-10. Time is up.
It’s over, Bolton can’t survive. Just can not happen. The list is not this bad.
Can we call this of due to lack of interest?
And that Ladies and Gentlemen was the blow that fells Bolton. He’s done.
Lock it in. Luckily there is no pay out involved. At least that’s something.
Kennedy is hopeless too
We have a qtr to find some face in this game, do we have the drive?
Drive is gone, players are lost. Not going anywhere
Kennedy is hopeless too
It’s as if he’s set an anchor on the ground and can’t move. Shocking pick up.
Love to see a John Kennedy type coach come in to shake this mob up, no desire showing,
Don’t play Fasolo ever again
And that Ladies and Gentlemen was the blow that fells Bolton. He’s done.
Lock it in. Luckily there is no pay out involved. At least that’s something.
Pretty sure there is. That rolling contract thing did include a payout clause.
Get rid of Bolton tomorrow, players are lost and to have him for the rest of the year will just hurt the on-field culture badly.
The top 8 players for disposals are bombers. Heppell has 31 but even hooker and Hurley have 25+.
Our highest - Dow, Kreuzer and Newman on 19. Walsh on 18.
I'm watching this on TV, butas I see it thus is a poor work rate and lack of professionalism and concentration from so many players. Forwards standing still, a lack of talk between players and most of all just poor kicking time after time after time.
Like I said I think it's the wrong decision, but there may be no other way.
Having said that you can't blame BB for guys like Fasolo, Marchbank, Kennedy and Lang, etc., etc., playing the way they play now!
Pretty sure there is. That rolling contract thing did include a payout clause.
I thought he was a member of staff when we brought him onboard? So no pay out. I should check, but cannot be bothered tbh. :(
Also with the greatest of respect, yes I can. Very well.
Can you?
I said I don’t won’t barker taking over. I didn’t say for the year as it wasn’t what you suggested. I don’t want him for a week, a day or a training session. When Bolton departs Barker goes too. I could almost even accept dropping Barker first and seeing if it makes a difference before moving Bolton on. Our midfield is a disgrace and he is a responsible.
And that’s fair enough but I was referring to one week and nowhere did your answer suggest what you have suggested in the above post. Had you said what you are saying now, I wouldn’t have criticised your comment.
I thought he was a member of staff when we brought him onboard? So no pay out. I should check, but cannot be bothered tbh. :(
4 weeks pay and call him a Cab first thing tomorrow >:D
They WILL NOT sack BB until we loose the next3 games....I had an interesting conversation with a former premiership player who is of the opinion that why we have SOS as head of recruiting we will be crapE..
He also questioned our development or lack of, and assistant coaches.
Totally agreed with all he said...
I thought he was a member of staff when we brought him onboard? So no pay out. I should check, but cannot be bothered tbh. :(
He was.
However through continuous speculation, someone from the club (Trigg? Liddle? MLG?) came out and said he has security of a payout so no need to extend his contract etc.
Speculation about Boltons contract since then has never been talked about again.
Like I said I think it's the wrong decision, but there may be no other way.
Having said that you can't blame BB for guys like Fasolo, Marchbank, Kennedy and Lang, etc., etc., playing the way they play now!
Understand your point, but he is responsible for structure and for getting the best out of our players and he would have the biggest say in choosing the side each week - Lang and fazzy are his call.
And that’s fair enough but I was referring to one week and nowhere did your answer suggest what you have suggested in the above post. Had you said what you are saying now, I wouldn’t have criticised your comment.
So if you suggest him taking over for one week and I say I don’t want him taking over, why jump to conclusions and attack other posters for their reading skills? It’s unnecessry.
This has been coming for a long time, shuffled players out, what we have bought in has been ugly, players seemed lost, & disinterested, lack of game plan, cant see any other way but replace the coach. Not the best option, but with so much of the season still to go we might be able to salvage something
Get rid of Bolton tomorrow, players are lost and to have him for the rest of the year will just hurt the on-field culture badly.
What on-field culture - There is none.
Cripps was beaten today by a 2nd gamer.
Need another cull at seasons end. Waiting for the long list of overrated kids to turn into decent footballers won’t work.
Heartless disgrace.
Amen
Don’t play Fasolo ever again
Fasolo has very little talent , does not have adequate speed and is close to dwarf size. Gibbons only has slightly better speed and a slight bit more ability. That adds up to 2 forward positions that are always going to lose. And therefore so will the team.
I'm watching this on TV, butas I see it thus is a poor work rate and lack of professionalism and concentration from so many players. Forwards standing still, a lack of talk between players and most of all just poor kicking time after time after time.
I have already turned off, just cannot be bothered watching it any further. This is players that simply will not work on their skills, continually make poor decisions which then affects the confidence of the group. You blame the coaching staff all you like, but the players must take ownership for this, why have they not improved? Time and time again it was just lazy poor football, perhaps incentive based contracts are needed, players they don't pressure don't play. You earn a lower amount, and if players want to leave because of that we do not want them anyway.
They WILL NOT sack BB until we loose the next3 games....I had an interesting conversation with a former premiership player who is of the opinion that why we have SOS as head of recruiting we will be crapE..
He also questioned our development or lack of, and assistant coaches.
Totally agreed with all he said...
Would love to know more about this ?PM
I must say that my opinion of SOS,s recruiting is diminishing every game.
Don’t play Fasolo ever again
Or Lang
Fasolo has very little talent , does not have adequate speed and is close to dwarf size. Gibbons only has slightly better speed and a slight bit more ability. That adds up to 2 forward positions that are always going to lose. And therefore so will the team.
Why pick on them? Add Newman, Plowman, Kennedy, Lang, Thomas to the list of players who will never really cut the mustard. And of course Bolton and Liddell.
Another goalless quarter coming up.
That’s half a game of football without goals in this match.
Now Hamish McLachlan is offering McKay coaching advice!
They WILL NOT sack BB until we loose the next3 games....I had an interesting conversation with a former premiership player who is of the opinion that why we have SOS as head of recruiting we will be crapE..
He also questioned our development or lack of, and assistant coaches.
Totally agreed with all he said...
SOS has looked the best in terms of recruiting for years, so to say we won't improve - have a look at our past drafts! It is development, or lack of that has been the continual problem at Carlton for years. Why haven't we won the VFL premiership at least? That at least builds some winning culture and allows players to develop in a successful unit. They won't get that playing seniors.
Another goalless quarter coming up.
That’s half a game of football without goals in this match.
Against an ordinary vfl side :-\
74 - 33
Good night Irene
Would love to know more about this ?PM
Yep PM me too please
74 - 33
Good night Irene
When you lose by around 7 goals in wet conditions, you have definitely not had a great day.
I must say that my opinion of SOS,s recruiting is diminishing every game.
No issue with our drafting generally. We've put together a decent enough side. Just so poorly coached.
Some of those players come to us as decent players then they turn to $hit when they are here.
I must say that my opinion of SOS,s recruiting is diminishing every game.
I think we got good players in, but what our coaching group is turning them into and getting them to do is diabolical.
I can’t accept that many first round draft picks can collectively be so bad under a good coaching and development team.
Post game thread is open.... no more posts in here other than those being composed.
Will lock it up in 2 minutes