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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Round #4 Carlton vs St. Kilda in NZ: Pre Game prognostications
Quote from: DJC – on
:o

Well, at least one Saints player will be in for an easy day.

I wouldn't be so sure.  He kicked 3 goals and had the aggot roughly 25 times last weekend.

I don't mind Tutt.  I think he has something, and I think he might have been the most bargain recruit we have picked up in a while.  Let's not blame West Coast on him.  roughly 19 blokes were more at fault than he was for how that panned out.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Worst Leaders in the AFL!
Quote from: Micky0 – on
Are you being serious? our expectations at CFC are seriously crap if you believe that

I am being serious.  There is some stupid money being thrown around to get players to shift clubs, and we are taking exception about wages, when the club have made a call. 

Some will pay off others will not.

Welcome to modern football. You won't get every draft pick right, you will lose free agents some you don't want, and players will get traded.

Favourite players will get axed, you will lose games, you will not enjoy it like you used to and the unthinkable will happen frequently.

You can get annoyed about it, or accept that this is the way things go.

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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Worst Leaders in the AFL!
I think we need to move on from the notion That wages are anything but what you pay to get a player to switch clubs.

I.e.  Shaun Grigg got 450k a season to switch to Richmond.

At the time that was way overs.

That's what it took to get him over.

Tom Boyd is on a massive contract based on potential and former draft pick status.  He is not worth that money (yet).

We paid Thomas, what will be an average b grade midfielder wage to get him. 

Finish.   It doesn't mean he needs to be our best performing player nor does he being injured make it money wasted.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Worst Leaders in the AFL!
Quote from: shadesy – on
How many free agents have been signed to be a role player at there club?

Technically they all have.

We seem to be the only club in the AFL foreign to the concept of role players, and just expect to push blokes out there, play their best and we shall win somehow because they are worth a million bucks a year.  If Tom Boyd was at Carlton he would be being absolutely smashed right now, because the bloke has misfired spectacularly thus far.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Round #4 Carlton vs St. Kilda in NZ: Pre Game prognostications
Quote from: DontgoJuddy – on
I am not 100% sure how AFL define their Clangers stat however I googled it and Ted Hopkins of Champion Data defines it as a Turnover or mistake. I was staggered to learn that in 2014, Carlton had the fewest total number of Clangers of any Club. You read it correctly, the fewest. 912 for the year to be exact. PA made the most with 1151. So far this year, we have the 4th fewest. So it seems though that we get scored heavily against us from our TO's (or clangers) which means its all about where, who and how we turn it over perhaps.
this hurt us more than anything against both Richmond and Essendon and even to a lesser degree against West Coast.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Worst Leaders in the AFL!
Quote from: Lods – on
It's a huge factor
Which is why I fear for the future of our young ones.
Their chief role models are an aging Judd, and two number one draft picks who are a product of a mediocre environment.

I reckon that might be a driving factor behind recruiting Thomas, who is not a fantastic player in terms of being the best in the comp, but is no slouch and actually can lead on the park.

Still, we have a fair way to go.