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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Garlett Dropped Last Week For Disciplinary Reasons
He's 22 years old and some Indigenous players do tend to take a little time and a little nurturing. Given the right development he would be well worth it.

What about  Wingard, Prestia, Omera, Cameron. 

Your missing the point and failing to accept his application is all wrong regardless of liking the coach or not. 


No you're missing the point. Yarran needs to be nurtured, I'm happy for him not to be but taking it to the other extreme and using him as a public scapegoat? Sheer lunacy.

Nurtured?? For what FFS he is a grown man not a baby on his mum boob

To work hard, apply your self commit to going 100% does not require nurturing just a choice…


You're so wrong it's just not funny. There are many many other factors involved other than just simply working hard. Like I said, I too don't beleive Yarran should be nurtured to that extent but to go to the other extreme is extremely disappointing and shows a certain element of CBF from where I sit.

agree to disagree
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Garlett Dropped Last Week For Disciplinary Reasons
He's 22 years old and some Indigenous players do tend to take a little time and a little nurturing. Given the right development he would be well worth it.

What about  Wingard, Prestia, Omera, Cameron. 

Your missing the point and failing to accept his application is all wrong regardless of liking the coach or not. 


No you're missing the point. Yarran needs to be nurtured, I'm happy for him not to be but taking it to the other extreme and using him as a public scapegoat? Sheer lunacy.

Nurtured?? For what FFS he is a grown man not a baby on his mum boob

To work hard, apply your self commit to going 100% does not require nurturing just a choice…
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Garlett Dropped Last Week For Disciplinary Reasons
He's 22 years old and some Indigenous players do tend to take a little time and a little nurturing. Given the right development he would be well worth it.

What about  Wingard, Prestia, Omera, Cameron. 

Your missing the point and failing to accept his application is all wrong regardless of liking the coach or not. 

For the record – I think he is an awesome player when on and love watching him but I would be open to trade if the right one came. But it would have to be good. 
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Garlett Dropped Last Week For Disciplinary Reasons
In particular Chris who is proving to be a very frustrating talent. Inconsistent and failing to live up to his potential and make any acceptable incremental gains as an AFL player year after year. At this stage of his career he should be well advanced to where he is now.

See this is what pi55e5 me off (not you specifically Marci) but people in general looking at this year and saying Yarran hasn't been improving when in reality it's just this year his improvement has halted. He was actually quite well advnaced last season IMO.

What do you think yarran mental approach is in comparison to say a K Jack or C Judd or anyone else of that ilk.  Do you think he approaches the game and training with the same attitude?  Clearly not and that answers the reason why he going through the motions until he changes his mindset he will coast and his talent will allow him to JUST get by
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Garlett Dropped Last Week For Disciplinary Reasons
Yarran showed some poor body language after being asked to wear the sub vest.

Media pick up on it (commentators on game day noticed) and then proceed to ask about it in the press conference.

Mick responds to the question.

It's how he responds to the question. Remember when Murphy was getting goals kicked on him? And Mick was questioned in the media? He stuck up for him or at least deflected from the problem at hand. Same with Waite (before we lost the following game). He has taken different paths with different players. Making Yarran the sub was just taking the pi55. If he was playing equal, he would've made Murphy play a run with role the follwing week, that would be the equivalent. Yes it hurts the side but it's all about improving the player. Isn't that what Micks getting at? Or is it different for every player?

Blokes like me are prepared face reality and accept that our list is just not that good. The glaring holes are so obvious and what MM has delivered this year I think is on par with our list.  I guess you disagree.  I will state it now that if we don’t improve in 2 years time and the list has not been turned over I will be pointing the finger at the coach.  Im expecting big improvements next year and If not I will probably starting question things.

As for the 3 players, Jeffy has had a very good year but has fallen away the last quarter, eddie a stinker and Yarran personally I think not to bad apart from some crap he has dished up.  Should he be played of HB yep but who know MM will have a few plans up sleeve if we make finals.   

Also I don’t get the impression from anyone part from Yarran that they have an issue with the coach.  I think Judd comments a week or two ago are pretty telling in that.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Garlett Dropped Last Week For Disciplinary Reasons
If you are referring to Yarran, as I said he created his own public attention.. And have we really become that sensitive?  Do you really think MM comment were that bad to me they weren’t? To me they were not much.

How MM acts to the general public and how he acts internally are different. I don’t see it as problem I know the Coll players didn’t see it as problem not sure about our blokes.  But I guess understanding how some would see it as a problem. 
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Garlett Dropped Last Week For Disciplinary Reasons
Apparently was supposed to attend the game the week before, was a no show and his excuse was he rocked up to the ground, couldn't find a park and went home. LOL.*

*According to Damian Barrett on TFS.

But Mick only plays favourites and only disciplines Yarran.

He wouldn't discipline someone like Garlett who is his new favourite....
Oh wait.  :-[

Stupid point you cannot escape punishment for what Garlett did.

Did Mick pay out on him in public?

No he didn’t and as for Yarran he created his own public attention.   Your argument of MM in the media is dribble at best.  Move on

MM way is far better than pretending you are everyone best mate and being to afraid to upset someone.  With that approach and our current list we would never have achieved anything..  The flaws in our list are there for all to see..
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Garlett Dropped Last Week For Disciplinary Reasons
It is extremely disappointing that Eddie, Jeff and Chris has all seemingly been unable to cope with MM and have crumbled in varying degrees when the blowtorch was placed on them in regards to discipline and application. This week may be the last game they play together

Do you think that says a lot more of their character than MM as a coach?