Carlton Supporters Club

Quote from: blueray – on June 23, 2025, 03:01:14 pm

Fair enough about Aaron. Who are the names that could be those types of players? Oscar Allen maybe? With Morris doing so well at Brissie, could Allen be worth a shot. Scored 53 goal just two years ago. I'm not so sure about him but just throwing names out there.

BR, Allen has been offered six years at Brisbane on decent money and lacks a bit of intensity imo for the contest.
Brisbane can have him for that type of contract, as I said Id be looking at cheaper options who can provide a bit more teamwork down forward and be creative as well as kick a few goals themselves.

Naughton as Prof said is on big bucks and  is unreliable kicking for goal. With Jamara  probably on the way out I'd expect Naughton to be a required player to pair with Darcy.
We need to get a Mihocek, cheap, reliable, and effective. If you want to have good smalls then you need good bigs who can work with them and be unselfish and that's why Elliott, Hill etc at Collingwood prosper with a FF who is prepared to support his teammates.

Try McNaughton is on one of biggest, longest term contracts on the league.

Naughton is on huge money and is under pressure for not delivering, kicks a lot of points.

Quote from: blueray – on June 10, 2025, 04:46:43 pm

All i was saying is we need two players out with currency (as above). One is likely Walsh who has gone backwards and two would be Harry or Curnow but Carlton won't. They'll just let TDK go for peanuts and have another ordinary year. Curnow has no dog in him. He is supremely talented but just does not do enough. Our entries can be poor but i see the leads from our forwards live each week. No wonder the entries are as bad as they are. Hard work beats talent. Just look at Collingwood

I'm not a panic merchant with knee reactions. You're not getting rid of your best players to get them. Charlie has 2 Coleman's, would have been a 3rd last year without the ankle injury and still will kick 50+ this year even without a pre-season. Start giving away your best players and you find yourself going no-where. In the end one has to score to win. Just pure panic.   Like I said, we lead the half time ladder comfortably, so we can play. Things go ok then and we score. Scores are often in the 50s or close to it. What happens in the 2nd half then didn't happen in 2023 and up to round 19 2024 until injuries killed us? Basically the same side. Possibly the game plan? Attitude of the team as a whole? Play the wrong side?

TDK will get us top 8 compo as it stands. We could use that or even split it. Plus Harry Dean and the NGA prospect Ison.

Quote from: blueray – on June 10, 2025, 11:58:06 am

So you're happy with Curnow's input? With Harry's? With Walsh?
I am not and they all have currency right now to get very good stock back with immediate effect. Any later and we're stuck with them.
I was with my 17 year old son at the game. In the last quarter 5 mins to go and Curnow has a shot to ice the game. I said to him "The great players kick this goal, let's see if he's a great player". Sure enough he misses badly and game is still on a knife's edge. We can get rid of players that aren't great and Curnow, McKay and Walsh are not great players. They are very good with potential to be great but they have had enough time to be great and unfortunately they will not hit that mark.

Have been their whole careers. Harry's work in the 2nd ruck this year around the ground has been terrific even if not hitting the scoreboard. Match winner against Geelong. Charlie missed his pre-season, still on target for 50+ while Walsh also missed a chunk of pre-season and still not 100%. Form is temporary, class is permanent. I'm not soft enough of mind to throw the baby out with the bathwater at the first sign of panic and a slight drop in champion player's form. Those sides above I mentioned didn't and reaped the rewards.                           

Maybe for the forwards issues are the worst delivery imaginable going into the F50.  Notice how much better they perform earlier in games when the ball comes in more easily. Hence we are on top of the half time ladder, 10-2, 130%, a significant, telling stat. Says to maybe blame elsewhere with what happens after half time. It's not just the gun forwards, it's up the ground. Hard enough for the like of Charlie when he is fit, let alone half fit.                              

Quote from: blueray – on June 10, 2025, 10:54:58 am

Without being controversial, we need to think about two of either Walsh, Curnow, McKay and TDK (likely FA). No one else will have the currency needed to instantly improve the team. We're in desperate need for a speedy midfielder and I have been saying this in years yet they have not addressed this deficiency. That is unforgivable in my opinion.

TDK will  probably leave.  That's it. Puts us back in the first round. We'll land a very good F/S with Harry Dean too. No point hitting the panic button. Geelong didn't in 2006, Richmond didn't in 2016, and were 37 years without a flag, virtually like us now in every way, and the Pies in 2017. A few structrual tweaks for a bit more run and we'll be ok. Then comes down to our attitude.

Who do you think should be traded out Blueray?