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Re: AFL Rd 15 2025 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #105 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
I heard a news report suggesting the senior players are leading the review of the NM disaster this week. That's farken laughable if true given the senior players are the problem. How do you reckon that review will go?
Well if on field behaviour is any indication, it will be a pretty casual review especially if Charlie is leading it.
Lots of smiles, a few beers, nothing to see here...

Re: AFL Rd 15 2025 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #106 –
Quote from: pertz – on
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
I heard a news report suggesting the senior players are leading the review of the NM disaster this week. That's farken laughable if true given the senior players are the problem. How do you reckon that review will go?
Well if on field behaviour is any indication, it will be a pretty casual review especially if Charlie is leading it.
Lots of smiles, a few beers, nothing to see here...

Maybe Charlie can tell the playing group how a spud like Toby Pink kept him goalless.

Re: AFL Rd 15 2025 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #107 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Quote from: pertz – on

Well if on field behaviour is any indication, it will be a pretty casual review especially if Charlie is leading it.
Lots of smiles, a few beers, nothing to see here...

Maybe Charlie can tell the playing group how a spud like Toby Pink kept him goalless.
Charlie would be the last person to articulate anything. And if you think he's bad, have a listen to Brad Lloyd on 3AW, how the hell the club thought it was a good idea to post that hot, bumbling mess of an interview from Lloyd on the website is embarrassing.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 15 2025 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #108 –
Is that plonker still onboard?
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: AFL Rd 15 2025 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #109 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Maybe Charlie can tell the playing group how a spud like Toby Pink kept him goalless.
Pink had a lot of help, ....................... from us! ;D
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Rd 15 2025 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #111 –
Although not on this thread, I have been very negative about our list with my blues group for the last 3 years. This included our great run. The decider for me was being 30 points in front at the quarter break against Brisbane in the prelim only to taper out so easily. I was glad we didn't make the GF that year as we would have been embarrassed and would have taken us at least a decade to recover from it. I have said for many years that our midfield is slow and one paced and we have never addressed it.
I've mentioned this on this site that we need to get rid of two of our top 5 players that can garner really good picks but as usual this is met with trepidation.
We have no currency as it stands in trading mid tier players so we have to give away players with actual currency and yes this is either Curnow, Walsh or McKay. I am resigned to TDK leaving so there's no point mentioning him. That leaves us with one of the mentioned three to leave and get picks back and use them for quality speedy players that can have an instant impact.
We need to remove the forward coach and any that are not performing. Keep Voss if he is accepting that his gameplan doesn't work and hold up in modern day footy, and he immediately starts working on a more aesthetic brand of football because currently we are the most boring team to watch in the AFL. If he thinks he is not up to reinventing himself, then we would need to find a replacement.
If we happen to keep Walsh, let's hope his body is right and has a great uninterrupted pre season. Possibly make him captain as Cripps is on borrowed time. He has been enormous for the club but relieving him of the the pressure will be good for him and Walsh can step up and lead the club as we all think is capable of.
Keep playing kids and decide who stays.
In terms of our forward line, it is not working and need to find an established player outside of the club who may not have the absolute talent, but one that is willing to give his all for the jumper. I know I'll get roasted for this but has anyone enquired about Naughton from the dogs? He wouldn't cost us much too I reckon. Or I may be completely off there but I hope the club is looking at things like this as this is just not sustainable the way we are operating at the moment.
I pay a lot of money for my family's membership and this is the first year I have contemplated in downgrading it to cheaper seats as I feel I am wasting my hard earned.
After all I am the consumer and if I don't like the product, then it's on me to do something about. No point wondering if the club is actually doing what's right by our members because i feel they are taking the piss.
Rant over, sorry.

Re: AFL Rd 15 2025 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #112 –
Naughton is on huge money and is under pressure for not delivering, kicks a lot of points.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: AFL Rd 15 2025 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #113 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
So Voss could coach up until 12 months ago and then he suddenly lost the ability to?

I never rated him. Failed at Brisbane was 2nd in charge at Port for a long period while they did very little and then had one decent year with us where we won both our finals by the skin of our teeth.  I'm not looking at this year only i'm looking at his time with us as a block of work.

Apart from the second half of 23 we have been underwhelming to say the least all with a list that is supposed to be in their prime and most say should be pushing for top 4 at a min.

We have beaten one good side in over 12 months ! Over the excuses time to make changes.       

Re: AFL Rd 15 2025 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #114 –
Not sure if this was mentioned in this thread as i haven't read it all but did anyone else think McGovern 'come on' with only 2 mins on the clock and being 4 goals down after he goaled as a tell of how dumb he is or more worrying how poorly we are coached that a senior player has no clue the game was already shot when he tried to fire the boys up?

What a stark difference to a team like the Pies who have different gears that are used at precisely the right time to get them a chance to win  - while we appear to have NFI of what to do except the same bang and crash style regardless what stage the game is at. Yeah we may play a little more through the middle but hardly rocket science - You just knew GWS in the last quarter where going to change style to get the suns and they did it and got the win. 

We are either the dumbest collection of footballers ever assembled or very poorly coached by a man that just does'nt have the tactics to employ when things are not going our way.

And when does Charlie cop it?  Our prima donna who is in the leader shop group (still cant understand who selected him in that group) - the guy needs an allmightly kick up the a5se for no defensive pressure or real want to attack the ball when he doesnt mark it. Bloke is a big part of our issue as his lack of effort runs thru the whole list.

Watch McStay's tackle late in St Kilda's game on Saturday on W-Millara where he had no right to lock on to such a fast nimble player yet he had the grit and want to give everything. I would show Mr Curnow that clip and say mate when was the last time you showed that effort.          

Re: AFL Rd 15 2025 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #115 –
Quote from: Professer E – on
Naughton is on huge money and is under pressure for not delivering, kicks a lot of points.
So we can get him for nothing as long as we fit the bill? How big is that bill, has it been made public? Not disagreeing but this is the sort of stuff we don't do well as a club.

Re: AFL Rd 15 2025 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #116 –
Finally David King says something sensible. We are too passive. Back in the 80's not only did we have lots of leaders who would take responsibility to change the game, we also had followers who would join in the rampage. Nowadays, we have few leaders and have fewer followers as everyone just plays for themselves. This is the cultural problem at Carlton and it is embedded in everything we do at the Club. We are comfortable in mediocrity. You can change the Coach, change the President, change the CEO, you can change the players, you can change the football department, you can change the committee and you can change the facilities, but until we change the  culture of the Club the problems will never change.

Re: AFL Rd 15 2025 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #117 –
Try McNaughton is on one of biggest, longest term contracts on the league.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?
 

Re: AFL Rd 15 2025 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #118 –
Quote from: Professer E – on
Try McNaughton is on one of biggest, longest term contracts on the league.
Cheers, am wondering if dogs would pay some of his contract to move him on. JUH is likely to leave and they'll need to pay Darcy what he's worth so Naughton may be surplus to needs. His salary may be just too much and thanks to those who brought this up but this is an example of how clubs with current good culture leverage to get players in. We need to get creative before Tassie comes in otherwise a premiership tilt could be 2 decades away

Re: AFL Rd 15 2025 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #119 –
Naughton as Prof said is on big bucks and  is unreliable kicking for goal. With Jamara  probably on the way out I'd expect Naughton to be a required player to pair with Darcy.
We need to get a Mihocek, cheap, reliable, and effective. If you want to have good smalls then you need good bigs who can work with them and be unselfish and that's why Elliott, Hill etc at Collingwood prosper with a FF who is prepared to support his teammates.