Carlton Supporters Club

Quote from: Baggers – on March 30, 2026, 09:36:40 am

This is not new. We've seen this movie over and over for quite some time now.

We've changed the game style, but not what is between the lugholes of our blokes. Same old, same old. You can paint stripes on a donkey and tell it to now run fast and hunt...

Bottom line: we're an embarrassment with no respect from other clubs. We have all the mental grit, resilience and strength of a turnip. But this is of our own making. How come this group is so demoralised that it can only operate when things are going their way... and easy?

Vossy admitted he's a glass half full kind of guy, looking for positives to focus on. All too often those who rely on positive thinking only do so because they're sh*t scared of negatives... reality. Fear based. Confronting fears (negatives) requires courage. Confronting the mindset of what happens to our blokes when pressure and change comes might just reveal the issue(s). We're courageous with our bodies, but not with our minds and hearts. Why?

Limited list talent wise being coached by a man who is struggling with a modern game plan which is foreign to how he really wants the game played and looks like a deer in the headlights when the momentum changes and gets that paralysed look which all Carlton coaches of recent times get.
Zero leadership from senior players, the captain looks like he has checked out and I also question our fitness.

Quote from: BluePhantom – on March 13, 2026, 08:15:05 am

https://youtu.be/1Xcy0dQjxxk?si=UXGyD6mdowPHrDOm

Older game but this guy pin points our problem.

I don't mind the analysis, but I think he is over simplifying what we see vs dont see.

Sure, we are utilising forward handball, and being proactive.  I dont think we are stopping this strategy, I think it stops working the same, because our opponents are doing something to one stop the run and then two, keep us in the contest, or clear from being able to run.

Richmond players last night were preventing our tackled players from getting up and contributing to the next chain of handballs which stops the run. Its like we just get held down, and thats it, hes out of the next chain, and after doing that, they get up and run off as soon as posession flips, and we are getting cut up outside corridor.  Inside its fine, but teams just arent using the corridor, and setting up for long kicks.

When the game was hot last night, we were kicking long to contests, and I noted a couple of opportunities where we probably should have looked to open up the fat side of the ground, but our team was staying compact.  A deliberate tactic probably to prevent the opposition from opening us up, but when we have the ball in hand, sometimes after playing one mode for a bit, you need to change up and switch to more open play.  the opposition wont expect it, but it requires a bit of nous and comms. 

That free to Green that gifted them their first goal was rubbish

Never been more disappointed after a win

Young, Hollands x2 and Fogarty are genuinely VFL at best. We lack run, power and polish

Quote from: PaulP – on March 06, 2026, 01:28:52 pm

I would suggest this issue precedes Teague by several years, and if that's true, I'd say the issues are deeper than the coach.

What do you think it is Paul?
I'm not saying you're wrong, but just about the only common aspects of the team from days gone by... is Cripps.
Coaches, list management, admin, players have all been turned over.
Understandably a culture of struggle and losing can impact youngsters as they come into the side.
I suspect Byrce Gibbs and Marc Murphy were introduced to a culture of struggle,loss and division.
Is that's what's happened with our group...and if that's the case is that also affecting player retention.

Too many smiles at the end of the game last night, not just with Curnow.
Fitness....we were done by just after half-time.
Size and strength....we're carrying a few light youngsters (and a couple of oldies) at the moment. That will improve but a large part of our list are a few years away from that maturity.
And chief of all...the inability of coaches and on-field leaders to stem that run of goals in the third term.