Re: CV and mad panic behaviour
Reply #3301 –
I'd stage the imposition of restrictions so that things continue relatively as normal until otherwise required, and am watching NSW with intrigue. My assumption is that they will get on top of this relatively quickly. The data shows 32 positive cases over 7 days for over 160 000 tests. The latest 10 are all close contacts and household members of those already positive. Which means, that their response is so far commensurate with the risk.
Seperate to that, I would be imposing practical safe guards to prevent outbreaks from growing before they begin in a future state to try and keep normality normal for as long as possible. Regular testing of someone coming out of hotel quarantine is a requirement for one month post quarantine.
I have witnessed lines of people waiting to get tested where they are all in each others faces, and there is no booking system for a test. Implement one, so that way you know who is coming where and when, rather than seeing a bunch of people standing around waiting to get tested. Yes, walk ins are ok, but Ive seen more scope for spread waiting to be tested than in a lot of places, and that was including during our big outbreaks last year.
I wouldn't be cancelling all the elective surgeries at the first sign of outbreak, because we should have mandatory testing for those going in for elective surgery. No negative test, no surgery and that continues irrespective of outbreak landscape to ensure that surgery and health care workers are protected. Cancelling all non essential surgeries at the first sign of outbreak, is problematic for a whole host of reasons, and I see no reason why they were cancelled recently.
The rules about new born dads only having 1 hour a day with mum and new born during out breaks is stupid and should be removed irrespective of outbreak. Let them have a test in the lead up to birth, and then you can be somewhat sure about their covid free state (and if unwell dont come at all, your new born will thank you later). I know of one infant in NICU who's parents were both allowed to visit seperately for less than 1 hour at a time.... Useless. They are more likely to walk out, catch covid, and then walk back in with it, than they are to go in and stay in for the day.
Schools continue until outbreaks implicate those students, and then into isolation unless wider restrictions result in more online learning.
Footy plays on with or without fans, as scheduled. The players are subjected to regular covid tests, and for the most part, should be playing on irrespective of covid state. The fact that there is this big rush to "get out" wreaks of stupidity as once we declare a lockdown, the point is to catch positive people before they run off, so the big rush to leave results in a potentially quick and large spread, instead of encouraging good behaviours. Result more spread, not less.
QR codes.... What is the point in QR coding people at a service station to fill up their car? They spend more time qr coding than they do with the attendant and that just makes people hang around longer. Practicality should trump the necessity to record things for the sake of it.
I am not advocating free movement of everyone, but there are better ways to do this than simply lock everyone up in a panic. I am not even privy to the information that they all have to come up with some of this stuff because I am aware that the government knows more than it tells its people. Gladys not locking down is a tell in itself that this one will fizzle out.
What I do know, is that the mandatory testing of front liners is wanting. I know at the airport and in the health care networks the tests are not happening to the staff that are required. The mask wearing is something that lacks common sense. If you walk into a hospital as a staff member, that just put a mask on in the car, they require you change it in the hospital.
Quantitive and Qualitative risk analysis is missing from a lot of our measures. I can go to a restaurant with 100 strangers where we all eat maskless, but I cannot go to a wedding with 100 people whom I know, and whom are more likely to avoid going if unwell because they dont want to kill aunty ruby (or maybe they do, but thats beside the point).
I went to a christening of twins in Feb. Over 100 people, not one chance of catching covid even though we were in restrictions a week later.
We make vaccines available. AZ, Pfizer, whatever. We tell everyone exactly what the hold up is, why its taking so long, and then at some point when everyone has had access to a vaccine, and declined to take it we let it rip until things get out of hand and we can revert back to controlling its spread again.
We are going to have periods where there is overlap between vaccine where people are at risk, but I can tell you now, that the administration of vaccines in the hospital is on a first come first serve basis. You walk in as a health care worker and you get one, irrespective of whether you are a cleaner or a surgeon because they didnt both prioritising. The fact they are discouraging too many from one department to go at one time, and to go just before a break between shifts is an indicator, that they know about side effects and the illness and sick leave caused by it. If people are refusing vaccines, well, statistics are statistics. You would feel pretty bloody stupid getting a disease you could have protected yourself against if it has a bad outcome attached, and thats a learning opportunity for the anti vax movement that will help us all in the long run so perhaps natural selection will work for the greater good there.
You know, I look abroad and we have been given a lot of hyperbole about this disease, and yet we dont have a 3rd world health care system, we dont even have a risk averse approach to covid (if IT issues occur, the IT guys go into the covid ward which is a massive tell about the covid risk because why would you send someone in if it was truly dangerous who doesn't need to go in, particularly for a mundane issue like one workstation offline or to install a fax machine when papers can be passed around quite easily or revert to electronic documentation, but I digress).
I dont speak from a position of not seeing some of the hypocrisy up close and personal, which means either the hospital workers are cognisent of the risk, and then take more risks than necessary anyway (doubtful) or the risk isnt as great as we are being told about, and the news out there is to encourage people to limit their stupidity outside of covid infection, in case they become the super spreader you guys describe.
Since covid started, I lead a rather simple existence. Catch ups with different families are a fortnight apart, just in case you only hit my side or my mrs side. We generally do grocery shopping, and stay at home activities where possible unless we need something else.
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