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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3360 –
When the dust settles and the history of covid is written, it may indeed be the case that a lab leak was the real cause, but until such a time, I'd be keeping an open mind.

Nudge nudge type cynicism and bias are no substitute for evidence and genuine analytical ability IMO.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3361 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
When the dust settles and the history of covid is written, it may indeed be the case that a lab leak was the real cause, but until such a time, I'd be keeping an open mind.

Nudge nudge type cynicism and bias are no substitute for evidence and genuine analytical ability IMO.

Live bats in a wet market?  Very likely.

Bats in a lab causing COVID? Science fiction perhaps 🤔

By the way, I have eaten a bat.  In hindsight it wasn’t the best choice on the menu and it was terribly over cooked.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!
 

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3362 –
You seriously expect a persecuting lying cheating communist regime to offer any evidence of their guilt?

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3363 –
Quote from: capcom – on
You seriously expect a persecuting lying cheating communist regime to offer any evidence of their guilt?

Only if it’s in their interest to do so.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3364 –
Quote from: Health Minister Brad Hazzard
"I just want to emphasize that the concerns we have at the moment are extraordinary, The Delta variant of this virus is certainly moving around our community far faster than anyone could have imagined and it's up to us to fight back."
Really? Haven’t critics spent the last week or so saying this is why NSW needed to impose a lockdown as soon as the Delta variant started to spread?

When I read that, it took me back to an episode of Frontline in which the EP was going ballistic at a journo who’d been sent to film a segment at the butterfly enclosure where some super rare moths had been added to the collection but he’d managed to kill them all when he used heavy duty lights to get better shots. He started to defend himself by saying, “How was I supposed to know moths would be attracted to ...” but gave up when he realised how stupid he’d been.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3365 –
When the evils of lockdowns ceases to be a viable avenue of attack, I guess the Wuhan lab theory will have to do.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3366 –
Quote from: DJC – on
Live bats in a wet market?  Very likely.

Bats in a lab causing COVID? Science fiction perhaps 🤔

By the way, I have eaten a bat.  In hindsight it wasn’t the best choice on the menu and it was terribly over cooked.
The Chinese lied about having live Bats...until old video came out, thats the issue and the Aus Govt were not exactly forthcoming about the research assistance they supplied either.
Huang Yanling, who worked at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, was one of scores of doctors, scientists, activists and journalists who disappeared during the Chinese Communist Party's suspected cover-up. She was known as patient zero..and meant to be the first CoVid victim and has not been found since.
As Cap suggested I wouldnt trust a regime that squash people with tanks or revisit Nazi death camps or as the Chinese call them re-education camps. I prefer my bats in caves or pollinating crops rather than on my plate....                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3367 –
I'd be 100% in favour of a proper investigation into the origin of the virus, but a Google search for "Huang Yanling Wuhan" doesn't inspire much confidence. The majority of the first 30 hits are from Murdoch papers or others like the Daily Mail. There isn't one I could find in the first 30 that appears reputable IMO.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3368 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
I'd be 100% in favour of a proper investigation into the origin of the virus, but a Google search for "Huang Yanling Wuhan" doesn't inspire much confidence. The majority of the first 30 hits are from Murdoch papers or others like the Daily Mail. There isn't one I could find in the first 30 that appears reputable IMO.

I'm not sure whether the Murdoch media is more credible than the propaganda produced by the Chinese Communist Party, but the same must be said for tweets about "patient zero".

Huang Yanling was a post graduate student at the Wuhan Institute of Virology but she hasn't published anything since 2015.  I suspect that the Chinese Communist Party doesn't have the ability to manipulate the very broad range of academic publications and the absence of publications by Huang Yanling is real rather than a COVID conspiracy theory.

It seems that "patient zero" is more likely to a be someone who contracted COVID-19 a couple of months before the Wuhan outbreak.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3369 –
Food for thought most of today's espionage end up being false flag attacks.

The Spanish flu was only named the Spanish flu because Spain was the first country to report on it.

I know people like to point the finger at Wuhan but odds are if this is man made and everyone is pointing the finger at China we've all been hoodwinked.

"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3370 –
Quote from: Thryleon – on
Food for thought most of today's espionage end up being false flag attacks.

The Spanish flu was only named the Spanish flu because Spain was the first country to report on it.

Many believe it was in Kansas ... but safe to say that with next to no commercial passenger air travel, many many millions more would have died. 

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3371 –
Quote from: capcom – on
Many believe it was in Kansas ... but safe to say that with next to no commercial passenger air travel, many many millions more would have died. 

Apparently reporting of “Spanish” flu was suppressed by the warring nations.  As Spain wasn’t involved in the war, its media was free to report anything.

While there was no air travel, tens of thousands of military personnel were transported to and from the war.  Returning servicemen brought the virus to Australia.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3372 –
Quote from: DJC – on
Apparently reporting of “Spanish” flu was suppressed by the warring nations.  As Spain wasn’t involved in the war, its media was free to report anything.

While there was no air travel, tens of thousands of military personnel were transported to and from the war.  Returning servicemen brought the virus to Australia.
Yes, one current hypothesis is that Spanish Flu actually started in the USA or at least accelerated there, it may have come out of Sth America or Africa, more importantly there is also some strong evidence that if the USA had been forthright in reporting the Spanish Flu rather than hiding it for political/military reasons millions might have been saved. Which seems ironic given the current argy bargy about China.

China's political position is interesting, even though it has technology and manufacturing capacity it has almost no resources that it needs to take advantage of it's other strengths, some analysts claim the only way forward for China on this trajectory is war and I'm sure nobody wins that! They also have huge domestic problems, a rapidly aging population and massive domestic debt that will almost certainly default if not on technical grounds then cultural grounds.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3373 –
Greg Hunt being forced to order a review into the CSIRO and their involvement in the Wuhan Bat research along with some Aus Uni's.The CSIRO have been caught telling porkies about live bat's being used and Matt Canavan won't let it go in the Senate.
The idea that Aus taxpayer money has been used to assist these Chinese researchers in return for what I don't know and has been covered up is disgraceful.
Uni's here will sell their soul for the Chinese money so that doesn't surprise me they are involved.
Let's hope its not another sham like the Who investigation was in Wuhan.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3374 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Greg Hunt being forced to order a review into the CSIRO and their involvement in the Wuhan Bat research along with some Aus Uni's.The CSIRO have been caught telling porkies about live bat's being used and Matt Canavan won't let it go in the Senate.
The idea that Aus taxpayer money has been used to assist these Chinese researchers in return for what I don't know and has been covered up is disgraceful.
Uni's here will sell their soul for the Chinese money so that doesn't surprise me they are involved.
Let's hope its not another sham like the Who investigation was in Wuhan.
We don't need to assist China, nor does CSIRO, we are beholding to them and they place(unwilling) operatives inside Australian Institutions dressed up as students and colleagues, they have had the keys to the cellar for decades. I've been involved in at least two major projects that saw all the IP stolen and funnelled to China, the only defence we have against it is international patents, but China doesn't really care as it's theft is used in it's domestic market and to supply a handful of sympathetic countries like Taiwan, Nth Korea, Malaysia and even hypocritically the Philippines. Big data is changing this game, because it's now become ridiculously easy to find plagiarism and IP theft, the concept of the digital canary trap.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"