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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3705 – July 14, 2021, 11:11:51 am

Gobsmacked, stunned, speechless... Rita P and Terry M (HUN opinion writers) have turned on Gladys and SloMo (Prime Minister of NSW).

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3706 – July 14, 2021, 11:30:47 am

Quote from: Thryleon – on July 14, 2021, 10:55:09 am

Its also worth not trivialising the domestic violence figures. I remember them state a over 200% increase in domestic violence episodes.

Thats not to condone the behaviour, or to state they are a direct result of lockdowns.

I know of quite a few relationships that were on the verge of breaking down, that the COVID situation caused the eventual break down, some that were strengthened in the face of adversity, and by the by, those that status quo remained.

The kids are going to be the ones we wont know how seriously or badly effected they were for quite some time and not just from the past 1.5 years, but the return to normality, and any PTSD they might suffer simply looking the world in the face.

By contrast it might effect them positively in ways we wont understand in terms of breeding resilience in generations that previously have not faced much adversity (in our society anyway).

Sorry, 3 Leos, but I have to pull you up on a little of what you say. I hope I haven't misread what you say... if so, I apologize.

1. That 200% rise in domestic violence is ONLY what is reported... let me assure you that the real figure is much higher. Similar to sexual abuse/violations/rape... much goes unreported. Why? Fear. Fear of retribution, fear of loss of somewhere to live, fear of livelihood, fear of stigma.

2. PTSD is not something that once you become resilient, it is healed or even reduced significantly or gone. PTSD, despite the shallow cures you might hear of, never goes, in fact it often worsens with age - it's about management. It is like a huge growling beast sitting on your shoulder for life. There are far, far better ways to become resilient than through suffering/trauma.

3. Perhaps the term PTSD is so bandied about these days that some of us are becoming immune to its horror/impact. Sheesh, some folks claim PTSD after what I would call 'minor' (but nonetheless traumatic) events - perhaps too easily diagnosed these days. If you lose a leg in a traumatic circumstance, you might very well become 'resilient' out of necessity... but you'll always walk with a limp.

Perhaps we'll meet up at a game one day and I'll communicate to you in person what happened to me. Or you can talk openly with another war vet, ambo person, police person, nurse, doc etc... who has PTSD and you'll learn it is a huge life changer in so many respects.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3707 – July 14, 2021, 11:45:47 am

Quote from: Baggers – on July 14, 2021, 11:30:47 am

Sorry, 3 Leos, but I have to pull you up on a little of what you say. I hope I haven't misread what you say... if so, I apologize.

1. That 200% rise in domestic violence is ONLY what is reported... let me assure you that the real figure is much higher. Similar to sexual abuse/violations/rape... much goes unreported. Why? Fear. Fear of retribution, fear of loss of somewhere to live, fear of livelihood, fear of stigma.

2. PTSD is not something that once you become resilient, it is healed or even reduced significantly or gone. PTSD, despite the shallow cures you might hear of, never goes, in fact it often worsens with age - it's about management. It is like a huge growling beast sitting on your shoulder for life. There are far, far better ways to become resilient than through suffering/trauma.

3. Perhaps the term PTSD is so bandied about these days that some of us are becoming immune to its horror/impact. Sheesh, some folks claim PTSD after what I would call 'minor' (but nonetheless traumatic) events - perhaps too easily diagnosed these days. If you lose a leg in a traumatic circumstance, you might very well become 'resilient' out of necessity... but you'll always walk with a limp.

Perhaps we'll meet up at a game one day and I'll communicate to you in person what happened to me. Or you can talk openly with another war vet, ambo person, police person, nurse, doc etc... who has PTSD and you'll learn it is a huge life changer in so many respects.

I just had a quick read, and I either haven't articulated myself correctly, or you have misread what I have tried to state (probably a bit of both).

Either way, call it a miscommunication, because we largely agree.

Ill try and clarify.

1. Domestic Violence has increased as a result of the COVID situations, and simply people being locked in together for long periods of time, rightly, wrongly, reported or otherwise. The figure I quoted was a remembered number off the news, and how it applies to the landscape is not to be trivialised and any inability for me to remember this is my error, not what is reported, or how the episodes play out (not all domestic violence is reported as an example). The 200% increase would be the confirmed calls to help, but even my percentage is a quote from memory and therefore, a number to accentuate how big a rise it is, rather than factual quoting.

2. I wasn't trying to link, PTSD and resilience. The resilience I was mentioning was more about Gen Snowflake, and how they need everything done for them, or have been produced as a result of helicopter parenting, where the kids are so dependant on things being provided to them, they have no concept of how to self entertain, or cope with their feelings properly.

3. The youth growing up with the spectre of COVID, and lockdowns hanging over their shoulder, are going to have elements of PTSD regarding this situation. This was where I was trying to head when I mentioned PTSD.

My final summation was a mixed bag of things, that I probably could have articulated better.

No need to explain more in person about what occurred, I think we have messaged privately, and I have nothing but respect for everyone else and empathy with any of their situations, and just consider anything written an error of communication than anything else.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3708 – July 14, 2021, 12:05:27 pm

Quote from: Baggers – on July 14, 2021, 11:11:51 am

Gobsmacked, stunned, speechless... Rita P and Terry M (HUN opinion writers) have turned on Gladys and SloMo (Prime Minister of NSW).

Merchants of misery, pain for profit.

They would do well in the S&M industry.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3709 – July 14, 2021, 12:11:23 pm

97 new cases in NSW and the lockdown has been extended by 2 weeks. Some public health officials are calling for a lockdown that’s harsher than Victoria’s as the Delta variant is more transmissible, otherwise new cases will just stabilise.

The Liberal opposition have lost their biggest weapon: pointing to NSW to show “Dictator Dan” didn’t need to lock down as he did. They can still argue this, of course, but it ends up a bit like the “What have the Romans ever done for us?” skit. They’ve gone from a black and white issue to a very gray one. Instead they might choose to attack him for not locking down harder and more quickly even if that would be hypocritical given their trenchant criticism of lockdowns and restrictions. Of course, they may well argue both even if they are mutually exclusive, especially if they can micro-target different audiences.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3710 – July 14, 2021, 12:16:36 pm

Melbourne folks check your news for exact details... Carlton v Geelong game (MCC area) is an exposure site.

(SKY NEWS)

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3711 – July 14, 2021, 12:19:16 pm

Quote from: Mav – on July 14, 2021, 12:11:23 pm

The Liberal opposition have lost their biggest weapon: pointing to NSW to show “Dictator Dan” didn’t need to lock down as he did. They can still argue this, of course, but it ends up a bit like the “What have the Romans ever done for us?” skit.

Funny, I thought of Python myself, but for me it was just a flesh wound!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3712 – July 14, 2021, 12:19:32 pm

At least Michael O’Brien, the Victorian Liberal leader, has won the consolation prize. The Sydney removalists have shared the love and Victoria now has 7 new cases. God bless the family who moved back to Melbourne and then breached quarantine.

O’Brien might benefit from another lockdown in Victoria even though NSW would be responsible for it.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3713 – July 14, 2021, 12:27:06 pm

Quote from: Lods – on July 14, 2021, 12:16:36 pm

Melbourne folks check your news for exact details... Carlton v Geelong game (MCC area) is an exposure site.

(SKY NEWS)

Mmmm, it'll be interesting to see how the AFL react to this.

If they want to be proactive it might be back to no crowds or reduced crowds just to be safe, as long as they don't be a Gladys and wait until the outbreak goes above and beyond. If the AFL want to be seen as the community leader they claim to be, reacting too slowly won't be the acceptable solution.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3714 – July 14, 2021, 12:48:11 pm

From what section of the ground do our injured players watch a game?

If it's a 'dodgy' area no doubt they've interacted with other players since the game.

The season could be in a bit of strife, so crowds mightn't be an issue.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3715 – July 14, 2021, 12:51:58 pm

I saw Marchbank in the AFL Members section when he had his neck injury. Fingers crossed that’s where they hang out.

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Reply #3716 – July 14, 2021, 01:04:38 pm

I guess the key is the 'bubble'.
How limited is the contact between AFL players and others at present.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3717 – July 14, 2021, 01:26:44 pm

In regards to this stated "AFL bubble", I suppose they get to and from their specially reserved seats through the same crowd of regulars as they always do.

In recent weeks, due to injuries, we must have moved several players in and out of the bubble to transition between AFL and VFL.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3718 – July 14, 2021, 01:31:22 pm

Chances are the quarantine-breaching family fled Sydney and returned to Melbourne to avoid the lockdown. But then they brought the lockdown with them. They're currently locked down in an apartment block with all of their unfortunate neighbours and it won't be too long before everyone else gets to enjoy it too. I wonder how popular they are in their apartment block. It shouldn't be too hard to figure out which family returned after an absence or moved in a week ago.

Edit: Maybe I've rolled 2 families into 1. Apparently, the Maribyrnong family is compliant but the Campbellfield family breached quarantine.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3719 – July 14, 2021, 05:53:40 pm

Quote from: Mav – on July 14, 2021, 01:31:22 pm

Chances are the quarantine-breaching family fled Sydney and returned to Melbourne to avoid the lockdown. But then they brought the lockdown with them. They're currently locked down in an apartment block with all of their unfortunate neighbours and it won't be too long before everyone else gets to enjoy it too. I wonder how popular they are in their apartment block. It shouldn't be too hard to figure out which family returned after an absence or moved in a week ago.

Edit: Maybe I've rolled 2 families into 1. Apparently, the Maribyrnong family is compliant but the Campbellfield family breached quarantine.

Maybe Im being harsh but the only way I can describe them is that they are selfish kents. Same with the removalists who refuse to comply on their movements.