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R8 - Blues vs Saints (Monday night mauling?)

So we've come off a bad loss which some predicted, others seem to think it was a total shock.

However, our opponents have definitely come off a bad loss which nobody could've predicted. Saints loss of 145 points is never expected.

So question is, will the Saints bounce back? Or will we continue their pain and give them another belting?

Based on VFL results, Cripps would have to be in and I'd look to bring in Wood. If Waite and Carrots are fit, they come in too. If no Carrots, bring in Graham

Who goes out...
Reckon Lucas and Bell earned themselves some time in the 2's. Casboult can go back and practice his kicking. Might be time to give Tuohy a rest as well.

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Reply #1 –
Meat must stay in the 1's. He's the only one in the team that is clunking marks and he can't keep going backwards and forwards to the seconds, would just ruin his confidence.
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We should win but if history teaches me anything tip Saints on a Monday night.  Also I reckon Richo will have them ready for us, he'll have a point to prove.

Excuses year 1, blame year 2, contract extention year 3........

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Might just be the first nil all draw in AFL history.

Gee it's hard to summon up any optimism re our club at present.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

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I think it's over for Carrazzo, he is officially a liability now, you cannot go forward with blokes who are highly likely to limp off 5 minutes into a game. It is a pity because I love his heart and soul, he bleeds navy blue, but he should do what is right by the club!

Waite only gets a pass mark because he seems to have the ability to play injured, he has enough skill and ability to contribute at 80%.

Cripps was flying yesterday but that broken nose or fracture might keep him out for a week or two.

Casboult has done enough to stay, his kicking is a problem, but his marking is first class at the moment. He needs better specialist coaching, plain and simple, keep him at least 50m out or running across the goal square. Anywhere in between he is a liability.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Quote from: Baggers – on
Might just be the first nil all draw in AFL history.

Gee it's hard to summon up any optimism re our club at present.

We are way ahead of the saints

We will probably win by 6+ goals

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If we play like we did on Friday and they play like they did on Saturday we'll win by 10 goals.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

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Quote from: BluePhantom – on
Meat must stay in the 1's. He's the only one in the team that is clunking marks and he can't keep going backwards and forwards to the seconds, would just ruin his confidence.

Why must he stay in? He can take a grab, kick a behind if he's lucky and hand the ball straight back to the opposition.

Its the same logic with Warnock when he was struggling. "But he is winning the hitouts"....and they are going straight to the opposition as much as they are going to us....so whats the point?

Wood managed 73 hitouts in the VFL last match. What about rewarding his efforts? He can kick straight, and can take a mark.

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Quote from: madbluboy – on
If we play like we did on Friday and they play like they did on Saturday we'll win by 10 goals.

TBF, they were coming off two 6 day breaks and an overseas trip against one of the best. I think we'll see a different Saints and one looking for redemption.
Ignorance is bliss.

ONWARDS AND UPWARDS!

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Quote from: BluePhantom – on
Meat must stay in the 1's. He's the only one in the team that is clunking marks and he can't keep going backwards and forwards to the seconds, would just ruin his confidence.

He'll stay in.
Kick a goal had a couple of shots and almost popped the footy in some of his grabs.

We just need MM to understand that the bomb is dead.
You can fool some of the people some of the time.......................................

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Quote from: kruddler – on
Wood managed 73 hitouts in the VFL last match. What about rewarding his efforts? He can kick straight, and can take a mark.

With that number of hitouts in a losing side you'd have to wonder how well they were directed.
It doesn't look like we had the advantage that type of dominance would suggest.

Fun trivia fact
Most hitouts in an AFL  game- Gary Dempsey (Nortyh Melb) 63 ....but Hawthorn won the match 32-14-206 to North 15-22-112
Tuck and Wallace had 30+ and Matthews kicked 7 so it looks like they picked off the hitouts fairly well.

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I find that's the problem with a lot of our players Kruddler. They can do some things really great but they all have weaknesses that get exposed against good sides.

Gibbs: Good player, kicks well, lacks urgency, lack of pace gets exposed running the other way.
Bell: Hard at it, slow, butchers the ball
Robbo: Hard at it, Good overhead, butchers the ball. (Not sure why he isn't used as a permanent forward)
Everitt: Gets a lot of the ball, uses it well, only plays outside and is a little soft.
Warnock: Is tall, can't mark, can't kick.
Casboult: Takes big marks, crashes packs, worst kick in the AFL.
Rowe: Tries hard, can play anywhere, slow.
McLean: Hard at it, really slow.
Garlett: Has pace, applies more pressure than anyone, tackles don't stick, can go missing
Henderson: Good mark, good kick, slow
Scotland: Good user, has slowed down due to age.
Walker: Run and pace, poor one on one, can butcher the ball.
Thomas: Runs hard, can no longer kick.
Lucas: Appears to have pace, can't handle the pressure
Tuohy: Runs hard, aggressive, beautiful kick, poor one on one.

Midfield pace seems to be a big issue.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!
 

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Reply #12 –
Quote from: Lods – on
Quote from: kruddler – on
Wood managed 73 hitouts in the VFL last match. What about rewarding his efforts? He can kick straight, and can take a mark.

With that number of hitouts in a losing side you'd have to wonder how well they were directed.
It doesn't look like we had the advantage that type of dominance would suggest.

Fun trivia fact
Most hitouts in an AFL  game- Gary Dempsey (Nortyh Melb) 63 ....but Hawthorn won the match 32-14-206 to North 15-22-112

I'm not suggested we should expect similar from him if he was picked for us, but you gotta reward his effort. He'd be backup to Warnock and would spend time down forward. (essentially the same role Casboult is playing now). The main reason for his inclusion, besides reward for effort, is to have an increased output in front of goals. In short, he can kick!

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Henderson isn't slow for a KPP but you've got of the rest pegged.

But we wouldn't be the only club who has a list profile like this but ours is probably longer.

FWIW I reckon if one of Beams, Swann or Pendlebury went down the Pies would be just another team.

I know I keep banging on about gun midfields but it's the difference. You need three or four stars and 3 or 4 really good back up.
You can fool some of the people some of the time.......................................

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Reply #14 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
Quote from: Lods – on
Quote from: kruddler – on
Wood managed 73 hitouts in the VFL last match. What about rewarding his efforts? He can kick straight, and can take a mark.

With that number of hitouts in a losing side you'd have to wonder how well they were directed.
It doesn't look like we had the advantage that type of dominance would suggest.

Fun trivia fact
Most hitouts in an AFL  game- Gary Dempsey (Nortyh Melb) 63 ....but Hawthorn won the match 32-14-206 to North 15-22-112

I'm not suggested we should expect similar from him if he was picked for us, but you gotta reward his effort. He'd be backup to Warnock and would spend time down forward. (essentially the same role Casboult is playing now). The main reason for his inclusion, besides reward for effort, is to have an increased output in front of goals. In short, he can kick!

Not against the move at all Kruds,
I was more interested in the dominance of Wood, just from a statistical viewpoint,  and wondered why it didn't have an impact on the result.
Just wouldn't pick him solely on the basis of the hitout numbers, and a few folk have suggested that he didn't do much around the ground.