Re: Chris Yarran has gone backwards. Reply #210 – August 14, 2013, 02:34:55 pm Quote from: madbluboy – on August 14, 2013, 02:05:06 pmI don't recall Yarran being close to All Australian ever.You have a habit of forgetting things that contradict your opinion so I'm not surprised, even if you did remember his stellar form there's no way you'd admit to it. Still, I'm happy to go with Kingy, Lynch and my own opinion. They seem to remember clear as day and so do I. Quote Selected
Re: Chris Yarran has gone backwards. Reply #211 – August 14, 2013, 03:43:12 pm I respect Kingy and Lynchy's opinions but I'm sure they don't watch every game of football played so it only makes sense that I would have seen more of Yarran they did. Come to think of it weren't you overseas a couple of years ago?Looking at the best and fairest for 2011 he finished 10th so that sits about right with my memory of how he played, middle of the road and that was his best year. Quote Selected
Re: Chris Yarran has gone backwards. Reply #212 – August 14, 2013, 04:07:38 pm Quote from: madbluboy – on August 14, 2013, 03:43:12 pmI respect Kingy and Lynchy's opinions but I'm sure they don't watch every game of football played so it only makes sense that I would have seen more of Yarran they did. Come to think of it weren't you overseas a couple of years ago?Looking at the best and fairest for 2011 he finished 10th so that sits about right with my memory of how he played, middle of the road and that was his best year.No doubt softening memories have them confusing Betts with Yarran, Yarran has never been consistent and Betts should have been AA! Quote Selected
Re: Chris Yarran has gone backwards. Reply #213 – August 14, 2013, 04:28:32 pm Quote from: madbluboy – on August 14, 2013, 03:43:12 pmCome to think of it weren't you overseas a couple of years ago?2006-2008 but nice try! Quote Selected
Re: Chris Yarran has gone backwards. Reply #214 – August 14, 2013, 04:37:42 pm Quote from: LP – on August 14, 2013, 04:07:38 pmYarran has never been consistent and Betts should have been AA!Scored over 80 supercoach points 16/23 times in 2011 with two scores of 79 not included. So he had four average games in which he still beat his opponent (remember he was playing defence). I'd check out my own memory before criticising others'. Quote Selected
Re: Chris Yarran has gone backwards. Reply #215 – August 14, 2013, 04:44:29 pm Average stats for his career if you click on averages. Some stellar games in 2011 and great consistency throughout whilst beating his opponent.http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/pg-carlton-blues--christopher-yarran?year=2011&fantasy=y Quote Selected Last Edit: August 14, 2013, 04:48:24 pm by PassIt2Carrots
Re: Chris Yarran has gone backwards. Reply #216 – August 14, 2013, 06:58:23 pm Quote from: PassIt2Carrots – on August 14, 2013, 04:44:29 pmAverage stats for his career if you click on averages. Some stellar games in 2011 and great consistency throughout whilst beating his opponent.http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/pg-carlton-blues--christopher-yarran?year=2011&fantasy=y...and 1 brownlow vote.Hardly the impact of an 'almost AA' player whose brilliance is hard to miss.I think Kingy and Lynchy are telling porkies. My recollection is the same as MBBs....and like you, he is a favourite of mine who i take a keen interest in. Quote Selected
Re: Chris Yarran has gone backwards. Reply #217 – August 14, 2013, 07:32:45 pm So you're using umpire's opinions as a pointer to why Kingy is wrong. I rest my case. Quote Selected
Re: Chris Yarran has gone backwards. Reply #218 – August 14, 2013, 07:36:18 pm Quote from: PassIt2Carrots – on August 14, 2013, 07:32:45 pmSo you're using umpire's opinions as a pointer to why Kingy is wrong. I rest my case.I can't use opinions to show you.I can't use stats to show you.I can't use umpires votes to show you.Doesn't leave a whole lot left. Quote Selected
Re: Chris Yarran has gone backwards. Reply #219 – August 14, 2013, 07:41:28 pm I'm happy to accept your opinion, you don't agree fine but I think you have a short memory. The stats work in Yarran's favour in terms of consistency but I'm not big on them anyway. I do however know what I saw in 2011 and it was the sign of something very special. Quote Selected
Re: Chris Yarran has gone backwards. Reply #220 – August 14, 2013, 08:59:20 pm I've been a big fan of Yarran since I saw him play his first game, he makes the hard things look easy like few players can, when I first saw him I thought he was something very special who would play 200 games for the CFC and thrill us supporters for a decade.I don't know the reason why but he's definitely gone backwards this year.At 22 with 80 odd games under his belt he should be firing on all cylinders, it's very disappointing. Quote Selected
Re: Chris Yarran has gone backwards. Reply #221 – August 14, 2013, 09:16:28 pm At Yarrans age he still has a chance to get his mind straight and become one of the classiest footy players going around. If he was 28+ you would think he was completely cooked. If only someone could find his switch. I for one will bag him one day and send him up on his better days. Just love to dream he will switch on for us soon and become elite of all elites. Quote Selected
Re: Chris Yarran has gone backwards. Reply #222 – August 14, 2013, 10:33:31 pm to understand Yarran, you have to go back a little. Rattan was a nurturing coach who offered encouragement with plenty of positive reinforcement, I saw that many times in the rooms and on the boundary. When someone like MM comes in, the change in coaching styles can be quite confronting (for some). some will adapt, some will not, some may need time. The reason why the pies flourished, is the whole list knew no better. I will never forget when MM first arrived, he mentioned he was surprised how introverted they were, maybe that word was a polite summation of where some are at now.When Ratts was troubled with critics saying that he was too close or comfortable with the players. Bringing MM in was always going to fracture some. My frustration is I don't think many at the club thought this would happen Quote Selected
Re: Chris Yarran has gone backwards. Reply #223 – August 14, 2013, 11:10:25 pm Quote from: thrunthrublu – on August 14, 2013, 10:33:31 pmto understand Yarran, you have to go back a little. Rattan was a nurturing coach who offered encouragement with plenty of positive reinforcement, I saw that many times in the rooms and on the boundary. When someone like MM comes in, the change in coaching styles can be quite confronting (for some). some will adapt, some will not, some may need time. The reason why the pies flourished, is the whole list knew no better. I will never forget when MM first arrived, he mentioned he was surprised how introverted they were, maybe that word was a polite summation of where some are at now.When Ratts was troubled with critics saying that he was too close or comfortable with the players. Bringing MM in was always going to fracture some. My frustration is I don't think many at the club thought this would happenNicely said !! Quote Selected
Re: Chris Yarran has gone backwards. Reply #224 – August 14, 2013, 11:25:05 pm Quote from: Amers – on August 14, 2013, 11:10:25 pmQuote from: thrunthrublu – on August 14, 2013, 10:33:31 pmto understand Yarran, you have to go back a little. Rattan was a nurturing coach who offered encouragement with plenty of positive reinforcement, I saw that many times in the rooms and on the boundary. When someone like MM comes in, the change in coaching styles can be quite confronting (for some). some will adapt, some will not, some may need time. The reason why the pies flourished, is the whole list knew no better. I will never forget when MM first arrived, he mentioned he was surprised how introverted they were, maybe that word was a polite summation of where some are at now.When Ratts was troubled with critics saying that he was too close or comfortable with the players. Bringing MM in was always going to fracture some. My frustration is I don't think many at the club thought this would happenNicely said !!Plenty of the CFC blokes are introverted, esp. Murphy - perhaps it just takes time? Quote Selected