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Re: RD 21 Carlton vs Geelong (aftermatch aftermath)

Reply #30 –
They came off exhausted so the effort can't be faulted.... they had a genuine go.  Umpires are funny  things... can't see Waite held by both arms from 10 metres away but can spot a contentious free to a cat's player from 150 yards away... funny that.  But we need to be more than 1 goal up with 10 to play against this mob to win - the result was, I fear, inevitable.

Our mids at least squared with their blokes and showed their class... but their backs were a tad too smart and too polished.  Bell is potentially a similar player to Caddy and I can see him having the same impact in games.Their delivery into F50 was also touch better.


The bomb long game-plan only works when your big blokes are taking marks, and they didn't.  If there was ever a game indicating  the need for a third marking option, this was it.  Casboult letting Caddy mark on the line was average, but you could tell by the way he wasn't recovering after contests that he is cooked.  Given it his all, but is now exhausted.

Notably poor ball use by Yarran - especially short - which created turnovers in the corridor and goals against us.  That said, he played unfit so to be even out there took a lot of guts.

Our half backs are a real worry;  Docherty's ball use is of major concern...  Touhy is but a shadow of the player he should be.  Sheehan looks a player though and at least can kick.  Armfield shown up for a complete lack of nous and he looks lost and constantly out of position and unable to influence contests.

Worried for Thomas - hope it isn't his bad ankle.  Menzel hurt a clearly already weak shoulder (thanks for the touch up Mackie... classic hand bag effort from that mob).  Ellard - foot - that is potentially a bad one as well.

Given who we had out there the effort couldn't be faulted - now to improve the list so we can put 22 solid players out each week and not have to carry a couple.  Who do we play next week?
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: RD 21 Carlton vs Geelong (aftermatch aftermath)

Reply #31 –
Good summary Professor. Agree with most of that.

We play Port next week in Adelaide.

Re: RD 21 Carlton vs Geelong (aftermatch aftermath)

Reply #32 –
Quote from: TheSheik – on
Did anyone else think that miss of Murph's from the set shot in the third rather poor ??

Have to kick those all the time regardless of who the opposition is.

Ellard had a couple of misses, again. Menzel missed a couple of sitters too, Geelong misssed more but we did miss some very gettable shots.
Mens sana in corpore sano - A healthy mind in a healthy body.

Navy, it's not just a color, it's an attitude !!!

Re: RD 21 Carlton vs Geelong (aftermatch aftermath)

Reply #33 –
11 goals won't win too many games against Geelong, we were lucky Hawkins didn't have his kicking boots on.
Waite was down a bit on his last few weeks but he was still our only player who remotely resembled a key forward, we need to sell the farm for one because Casboult and White will never cut the mustard.
Malthouse has at least got us giving 100%, but we need to recruit some quality if we want to go the extra mile.
The only thing in this world worth more than a hill of beans is the Carlton Football Club.

Re: RD 21 Carlton vs Geelong (aftermatch aftermath)

Reply #34 –
Quote from: blue4life – on
11 goals won't win too many games against Geelong, we were lucky Hawkins didn't have his kicking boots on.
Waite was down a bit on his last few weeks but he was still our only player who remotely resembled a key forward, we need to sell the farm for one because Casboult and White will never cut the mustard.
Malthouse has at least got us giving 100%, but we need to recruit some quality if we want to go the extra mile.

Agree with this.  We need to go a KPF that will be around for 10+ yrs.   If we don't, then once Waite goes (could be this year), then i really think it will set us back. 

Re: RD 21 Carlton vs Geelong (aftermatch aftermath)

Reply #35 –
Anybody watch Mick's presser on the AFL website ? He seemed pretty happy by his standards.

Good to hear him pump up the boys for a terrific effort.

Re: RD 21 Carlton vs Geelong (aftermatch aftermath)

Reply #36 –
Gibbs twinged his back in the warm up. I saw him run off half way through.
Jamo did too. That's when he hurt his calf.
Brock obviously injured himself in the warm up too.

Absolute carnage.
 

Re: RD 21 Carlton vs Geelong (aftermatch aftermath)

Reply #37 –
Quote from: emtwenty – on
Gibbs twinged his back in the warm up. I saw him run off half way through.
Jamo did too. That's when he hurt his calf.
Brock obviously injured himself in the warm up too.

Absolute carnage.


Waite survived the warm up.  That's one plus.   :P

Re: RD 21 Carlton vs Geelong (aftermatch aftermath)

Reply #38 –
great effort by an undermanned side,BUTwatching the way pussies play intelligent football,play to there strengths we have to learn this way eg 1 car player 3 cats around the ball handball,run away they go.We have to incease 2 things over summer body strengthh and fitnes .For now bring on the draft.

Re: RD 21 Carlton vs Geelong (aftermatch aftermath)

Reply #39 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
Anybody watch Mick's presser on the AFL website ? He seemed pretty happy by his standards.

Good to hear him pump up the boys for a terrific effort.

Absolutely. Mick is imagining next year after a good preseason and with a few new players. No wonder he's happy.
Reality always wins in the end.

Re: RD 21 Carlton vs Geelong (aftermatch aftermath)

Reply #40 –
Yes
Geelong have bigger stronger bodies than ours
Thats a major reason why we get injured

Re: RD 21 Carlton vs Geelong (aftermatch aftermath)

Reply #41 –
Quote from: MosquitoFleet – on
Yes
Geelong have bigger stronger bodies than ours
Thats a major reason why we get injured

A major reason we get injured is because we don't do the stuff clubs like Geelong and Hawthorn do. We don't fall across blokes deliberately when we tackle them, we don't bury knees or elbows into opponents on the ground, we don't cripple opponents in marking contests, we don't make ourselves "tough to play against", we are getting better at being tough but we are still miles away from the top two or three!

In general, we spend too much time being nice blokes who play the ball! We think if we offer this type of respect we will get it in return, we are naive!

Did you notice some of those dog acts from the likes of Enright, Kelly and Varcoe last night? Real low acts, gutter acts, but then this is the team that thinks stomping on a blokes hand when he is on the ground is acceptable! ;)

"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: RD 21 Carlton vs Geelong (aftermatch aftermath)

Reply #42 –
Quote from: MosquitoFleet – on
Yes
Geelong have bigger stronger bodies than ours
Thats a major reason why we get injured
To be honest, I think we get injured because Geelong play a very physical game and quite often stretch the rules on contact to well past their max. Notice that we were sniped behind the play a couple of time last night as well.
Look at Hawthorn, Sydney and Geelong and they all play a more physical brand of football than we do. There are more injuries in those games. However, none of them like it when the boot is on the other foot. probably because few teams can do it enough to harm them. When Gibbs and Murphy stand up to their s*it, they do not like it at all.
Live Long and Prosper!

Re: RD 21 Carlton vs Geelong (aftermatch aftermath)

Reply #43 –
With the kicking of Yarran last night, I just wonder if he had a jab to cope with his calf? He messed up too many kicks for there not to be reason.

Re: RD 21 Carlton vs Geelong (aftermatch aftermath)

Reply #44 –
Quote from: age – on
Quote from: emtwenty – on
Gibbs twinged his back in the warm up. I saw him run off half way through.
Jamo did too. That's when he hurt his calf.
Brock obviously injured himself in the warm up too.

Absolute carnage.


Waite survived the warm up.  That's one plus.   :P

Apparently he played with illness too.