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Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ??

Reply #600 –
Quote from: Juddkreuzer – on
Good decision by the local networks. Crap comp that gets ridiculous attention during the Australian summer but is not the type of Cricket that anyone who actually loves the game would hold in any level of esteem.

Possibly, but I always like to support the national team at any level of competition, I barrack for them at the toss of the coin!
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Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ??

Reply #601 –
Quote from: flyboy77 – on
AC 'the new Don' Voges now averaging 95.50.

 8) 8) 8)

Hack!  >:D

Insane numbers those.

And with another 2-0 series win Marsh will get (yet) another reprieve at 6. Plus we don't play tests again until SL away mid this year.

Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ??

Reply #604 –
Must be some wonderful pitch to bat on. Might've been a two day Test if it wasn't for the rain.

Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ??

Reply #605 –
Let the Lankans right back into the match.  If it ever stops raining this will be a very tight finish.....or we'll capitulate spectacularly.
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Reply #606 –
Nice series win 'Lankans, but don't be offended when the first test is in Brisbane and the pitch resembles the 12th at Augusta and the second is in Perth and is described by the groundsman as a "spitting cobra" of a deck...
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Reply #607 –
Quote from: Professer E – on
Nice series win 'Lankans, but don't be offended when the first test is in Brisbane and the pitch resembles the 12th at Augusta and the second is in Perth and is described by the groundsman as a "spitting cobra" of a deck...


Yep the spin of the Lankans had us bamboozled but I would expect a different story in Aus where the decks will be greened up and the little Lankans will be ducking for cover...
Maybe we need neutral groundsman to stop the conditioning of wickets to suit the home team... ;)

Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ??

Reply #608 –
Another side that seems to lose interest if the ball gets above the knee roll.  Can't believe how well the Aust pace bowlers have been on these &^($($(ed decks, shows their class.  Yet again its the muppets with the bats letting us down.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ??

Reply #609 –
While we are no.1 (or were?) it's very even at the top with no great sides hence home ground advantage is huge. We can't play on the sub continent those sides, outside of the Pakis, can't play outside of it.

We can never replicate their conditions here to practice on it so the only way to counter sub continent conditions is to have a real world class spinner. Although Warne did struggle in India the Indians did not dare through up a dusty 10th day track on the first day hence our pacemen and batsmen could succeed.

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Reply #610 –
We should still be able to account for Sri Lanka Jim... even an average score would have put pressure on their batting line up.

 

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Reply #611 –
Quote from: Bear – on
We should still be able to account for Sri Lanka Jim... even an average score would have put pressure on their batting line up.

Not necessarily if the track is turning against a team with terrific spinners.

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Reply #612 –
Quote from: laj – on
Not necessarily if the track is turning against a team with terrific spinners.

What we are seeing is the folly of selecting cross bat hacks who regularly belt the suitcase out of long suffering bowlers on flat track 20/20 or 50 over decks, but can't grind out an innings on a turning test track!

"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ??

Reply #613 –
Quote from: LP – on
What we are seeing is the folly of selecting cross bat hacks who regularly belt the suitcase out of long suffering bowlers on flat track 20/20 or 50 over decks, but can't grind out an innings on a turning test track!

Never going to be good enough anyway on the sub continent. We never get to practice on them. Hence we have no clue how to bat on them. Good reason why we didn't beat India for 35 years in India and couldn't beat the Pakis away for years either. Only way is to have a world class spinner so they don't produce turning dustbowls. No coincidence we won on the sub continent when we had Warne, even then India was hard work.

Remember, those countries have huge trouble outside of the sub continent adapting to bouncier greener pitches that swing and seams, probably barring the Pakis. Pakis had it right producing fast, swinging, reverse swing speedsters to go with their spinners. Allowed them to perform away from the sub continent.

Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ??

Reply #614 –
One of the issues with test cricket is that Australia have been #1 and maybe again soon. Amazing. It makes me wonder if test cricket actually is the main type of cricket in the world.

For ages we have had serious structural problems and yet nothing seems to happen about it.
[1] Batting: we are flat track bullies. Given a flat deck we can flog any attack on the planet. But where are there flat decks? At home? Maybe.
Seriously, our guys do not bat with the idea of building an innings. It is nice to flog an opposition attack, but only if you can pull it off, and we cannot. Managing to bat from behind? You have to be kidding.
[2] Spin bowling: Our incumbent off spinner may have the best numbers of any off spinner in Australian history, but that says something in itself. Aussies have traditionally used leg spinners, yet we have few and none that make a mark. What are we doing wrong? Not preparing pitches that wear. Drop in pitches last.
And do we do enough to promote or train our spinners? Do we do anything? We need to find spinning talent and get the used to bowling in ALL conditions. Especially subcontinental conditions, where they are likely to be required.
[3] Preparation: do we actually do any? Doesn't appear to be the case. You would think that before a tour to ANYWHERE that you would train under those conditions. And play a few warm-up matches. Yet few sides play any more than 1 or 2 warm up matches any more, no matter where they go. That, to me, makes a decent preparation more important, especially for a 'professional' team.
[4] Talent: where are our young cricketers? Something must seriously be done about this. There are a LOT of sports looking for talent now and cricket has to do something to get the talent it requires. They do not have the restrictions that there are in football, yet we do not seem to attract real competitors. Nice one day players, maybe, but not serious, competitive test cricketers.
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