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Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ??

Reply #1410 –
In any case, the term for Batsmen is the least of our current Batting specialists worries.....actually batting through 50 overs seems to be the current problem.

And I agree with others on here about Starc...he is possibly the most overrated, pressure reducing, run leaking bowler we've had in recent memory...and I used to be very hard on Mitch Johnson in his early years !
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Reply #1411 –
Quote from: Professer E – on
X2.  For every spectacular late in swinging stumps smasher there's a lot of old rope being served up by Mr Starc.

Have you noticed that these rare deliveries are almost exclusively produced to tail-enders as well ?
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Reply #1412 –
Quote from: malo – on
Fine..use it when commentating Womens cricket.

I had to laugh the other day when Pat Cummins was doing some commentary on the Womens Aust vs NZ one dayer at North Sydney...he called them batsmen a couple of times.

In the earlier days of Womens cricket they were actually called batswomen too.

At work the other day I had to get some equipment for a job we were doing and when I went to the equipment store and talked to my old mate the storeman he told
me he was no longer the storeman he was the "storeperson"....that was now his official title and it was changed due to work place equality.

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Reply #1413 –
Malo, Starc has always  reminded me of a Diet Coke version of MJ.  Just as much froth and bubble,  looks similar but doesn't satisfy like the real thing.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

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Reply #1414 –
BTW,  isn't our current batting coach Graeme Hick?  

Don't remember him being a particularly successful test batsman.

Punter should be involved with this side in some capacity.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

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Reply #1415 –
Quote from: Professer E – on
BTW,  isn't our current batting coach Graeme Hick?  

Don't remember him being a particularly successful test batsman.

Punter should be involved with this side in some capacity.

Hick was a stylist with good technique but struggled vs Aus,.. think he was close to a century once out here and the captain declared on him....

Punter is the new Mark Taylor on channel 7.....still coaches in the IPL obviously for the big dollars though Punter isnt exactly short of a rupee or two, read he was worth in excess of 100 million
with more to come. Dont see him doing any coaching for us over the next 6 years while he has the CH7 job which is about 3 mill a year....dont think the Aus batting coach job will cover that...

Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ??

Reply #1416 –
Hick?  God help us :(

Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ??

Reply #1417 –
Short bus ride to Hick from Hack.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

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Reply #1418 –
Didn't bat well in the short forms or on those Asian but i'm sure we'll be much better come the Test Series on our own decks. Be a different line up, not 20/20 sloggers with no technique.

Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ??

Reply #1419 –
In hindsight the biggest mistake CA made with Shane Warne was not playing him sooner. Fair enough he was dropped, and there was a risk at the time he might eat the rest of the team in protest. But the sooner he got in then dropped the sooner he stepped up to the next level.

If this Pope kid is any good, get him in the squad, lets not stuff around offering up has-been 2nd rate NSWelshmen as backup spinners! And as parochial as I am Jon Holland is never going to be the man!

We should have the opposition thinking we are making pitches for the likes of Starc and Pattinson and instead prepare a bunch of spinning tracks for the kid on the rise!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"
 

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Reply #1420 –
I don't understand why we aren't making pitches that suit Parttinson ET AL.  Oh,  sorry,  the ACB is so busy kowtowing to Kohli and the BCCI that we'll get roads that suit the other teams, not us.   Then again,  we're cheats,  not like those perfect, angelic Indians and  Sri Lankans.  No match fixing or doctored pitches over there.... Lankans should have been banned from tests for three years for the crap they pulled last tour.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ??

Reply #1421 –
Quote from: Professer E – on
I don't understand why we aren't making pitches that suit Parttinson ET AL.  Oh,  sorry,  the ACB is so busy kowtowing to Kohli and the BCCI that we'll get roads that suit the other teams, not us.   Then again,  we're cheats,  not like those perfect, angelic Indians and  Sri Lankans.  No match fixing or doctored pitches over there.... Lankans should have been banned from tests for three years for the crap they pulled last tour.
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That's what annoys me too. We make roads to kowtow to India and to make Tests go 5 days. Hurts our batsmen so much when they go overseas. They learn nothing playing on roads.

Somehow, we've managed to be the most successful non-Asian team on Asian wickets in recent times. Other sides must be crape.

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Reply #1422 –
Money talks, fear walks.

We've got players crapting themselves about touring those countries for test cricket. They think if the indigenous public see them as playing fair, and as a result of that being easy beats, that the lunatics won't blow up the tour bus! All it does is make the Aussie's sporting road kill, while Kohli continues to maximise the fear of touring India as a match tactic!

The Saffies, as they are prone to be, want the fight so they are up for it, they have evolved in a racially combative environment so they deal with it much better, that is why they are going through a golden period.

The Aussie's want to be tucked safely in bed with a nice warm glass of Milo!

It's both a moronic and hypocritical mindset, because the same Aussie players are queuing up to get on a flight to play in the IPL fearless in the face of cash!

That tells you that the problem isn't the crowd, it's the board executives, politicians and bureaucrats!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #1423 –
I don't see it that way LP, I've seen a few of our boys at close hand and they are fair dinkum tough competitors.  However, the IPL is a serious distraction for the fringe and second tier bloke, the "I'm not going to play tests, I need to make hay while I can types".   No more grinding away in the shield for 10 years trying to bridge a skill gap a la Hussey or Rogers, it's now a couple of games for the state and straight off to Chennai or Kolkata etc. 

I feel that the test players have been so  overloaded by .... noise (for want of a better word)... from on high that they have forgotten how to (a) play and (b) win.   FFS, what bozos up the food chain took decent, really quiet kids like Bancroft and Smith or Peter Handscombe or Burns and got them so wound up that they tried to be in your face hard asses???  Be yourselves, not something you ain't.

It's pretty simple really ... pick the best side (not the selector's and coaches favourites) and just play cricket.  Less over-thinking and more doing.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

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Reply #1424 –
Sorry haven't read all the posts and haven't ben on for a while, but I'd have Peter Handscomb back in the Test team. Very tempted to keep Marnus Labuschagne in. I love his versatility and that he can bowl leggies. Marcus Stoinis is a superstar in the making. Needs a run at it at Test level IMO.

There are a bunch of superstar kids coming through who are teenagers or 20 21 years olds. We're going to be set if they continue on their merry way at Shield level! I'm hoping we bring some in to the international ODI and/or Test team. Still reckon ODI's, you blood a bunch of your next Test level players, as we did many moons ago.