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Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ??

Reply #1455 –
Maxwell is suffering from his lack of friends, not from his lack of ability.

Even when he came in last night and got to 20 odd runs off 10 balls they were bagging him for erratic batting, like he could do better, like anybody could do better than that!

It was moronic commentary, one minute they were bleating that we needed get on with things because we needed 12 runs an over, then they were complaining about the bloke who was scoring at 12 runs an over!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ??

Reply #1456 –
Happy to stick with Lynn... think he deserves his chance in the short formats.

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Reply #1457 –
Quote from: Bear – on
Happy to stick with Lynn... think he deserves his chance in the short formats.

Lynn is a pig of a bat.
Either to scared to get behind it or his technique is not good enough.
Either way he ain't good enough for a world cup, which is only 8 months away.

Khawaja, Smith and dare I say it, Warner must play world cup.

The bowlers need a kick up the asss for that effort yesterday too.

Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ??

Reply #1458 –
That's what jerks my chain too Malo.  Bloody Marsh makes one score any suddenly he's a lock again.   His inconsistency is so frustrating.  I think the stats say that only one in five of his innings exceed single figures. You just  can't bank on him making runs.

I thought his dismissal in the second ODI for 22 was particularly poor.   Lazy shot,  from a bloke that has catastrophic lapses in concentration.

I'd be worried if i was Mitch Marsh,  Stoinis is becoming a more consistent player.  He gets wickets but his bowling is a bit inconsistent.  Don't know if he land enough balls in the right place often enough to be a threat in the longer form.

We've found out next keeper though.

Oh,  and another thing,  I'm getting tired of the Faf  du P good bloke Schtick.....he gamed that DRS call and it was very, very poor form.   Kohli ripped Smith for that issue last tour,  seems Faf didn't get the memo.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ??

Reply #1459 –
If as a team you only had one good game in five, you'd be dead last on the various competition tables. For Carlton that would be 4 wins in a season, and our fans would still be screaming!

Guess where Australia is heading?

We have guys retaining their spot in the squad based on roughly one good game in five, bowlers and batsmen, some of them incapable of fielding or throwing as well!

You cannot move forward as a group under these circumstances, either they have to find ways to contribute when their batting and bowling fails, like catching, runouts, etc., etc., or they have to make way for players who do!

All or nothing usually means nothing!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #1460 –
Quote from: Professer E – on
That's what jerks my chain too Malo.  Bloody Marsh makes one score any suddenly he's a lock again.   His inconsistency is so frustrating.  I think the stats say that only one in five of his innings exceed single figures. You just  can't bank on him making runs.

I thought his dismissal in the second ODI for 22 was particularly poor.   Lazy shot,  from a bloke that has catastrophic lapses in concentration.

I'd be worried if i was Mitch Marsh,  Stoinis is becoming a more consistent player.  He gets wickets but his bowling is a bit inconsistent.  Don't know if he land enough balls in the right place often enough to be a threat in the longer form.

We've found out next keeper though.

Oh,  and another thing,  I'm getting tired of the Faf  du P good bloke Schtick.....he gamed that DRS call and it was very, very poor form.   Kohli ripped Smith for that issue last tour,  seems Faf didn't get the memo.

Not sure why you're ripping into Marsh, he's no worse than any of the other so called 5 or 6 batsmen!
Finals, then 4 in a row!

Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ??

Reply #1461 –
Quote from: flyboy77 – on
Not sure why you're ripping into Marsh, he's no worse than any of the other so called 5 or 6 batsmen!

A lot of them won't get so many chances though! ;)
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"
 

Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ??

Reply #1462 –
In that side that played yesterday, Marsh is clearly the best player.

Finch, Lynn and Head are all 20/20 players with little technique.

Marsh is no star but easily better than those clowns

Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ??

Reply #1463 –
Quote from: JonHenry – on
In that side that played yesterday, Marsh is clearly the best player.

Finch, Lynn and Head are all 20/20 players with little technique.

Marsh is no star but easily better than those clowns

Finch as captain is a huge improvement over some of the other recent appointees, perhaps he should be our modern version of Bob Simpson or Mike Brearley!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ??

Reply #1464 –
Quote from: malo – on
Yeah, I'm inclined to agree...Lynn's reputation has been built on Big Bash...and it is plainly obvious how much of a step up international 50 over cricket is.

What was also highlighted very clearly yesterday was the difference in bowling plans & / or execution for the last 10 overs.  They scored 140 off the last 10 FFS !!!  We used to have the best finishers in the game going back to Waugh & O'Donnell, McDermott, McGrath...now these guys are just providing hitting length balls with the same pace on each.  Cummings, as much as I love him as a bowler, is a Test Match specialist.  Starc...where's the yorkers when you need them, Hazelwood, again is better at Test level.  The Saffers showed us exactly how to bowl in the last 10.

Anyway.....onto the Tests in November as usual.

I suppose yesterday will give S.Marsh a free ticket to all 4 of them.
Yes, I'm thinking Hazelwood and Cummins a purely Test bowlers. Berendorff is one i'd bring straight in. In ODI's i'd think about about both Stoinis and M.Marsh. I'd play two spinners too, Lyon and Fawad. Unless you have great ODI fast bowlers you need to take pace off the ball. Fast bowlers otherwise just go to the fence faster with their pace.

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Reply #1465 –
Quote from: LP – on
Finch as captain is a huge improvement over some of the other recent appointees, perhaps he should be our modern version of Bob Simpson or Mike Brearley!

Yeah he’s a genius
We just went for 75 in the last 5 overs

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Reply #1466 –
Quote from: JonHenry – on
Yeah he’s a genius
We just went for 75 in the last 5 overs

The bowlers were poo, Starc even came out and stated his spell was the worst of his career, but not really I think.

Which is the point I've been making about the likes of Starc and Coulter-Nile, as ODI and T20 bowlers they suck big time! To be a successful limited overs bowler you need extreme control over every delivery, these blokes can't even put them on the pitch reliably!

Once you have one or two bolwers letting the batsmen off the hook, the job for the bowlers at the other ned becomes impossible, the pressure doesn't build and they play freely. In ODI and T20 games Starc is just another Levi Casboult, the bloke the opposition is waiting for before they take control!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #1467 –
Jim is right,  there's a limited place for express pace in the short formats.   Unless you can bowl that late curving Yorker at will like Tait,  Ahktar, Wakar etc it just becomes a scoring aid.   Taking the pace off the ball has its place as well.

I don't want Hazelwood and Cummins wasted in ODI,  play Behrendorff,  C-N, Richardson,  Stanlake etc. Stanlakes trajectory is the hardest to hit.

The current English model is to play a heap of lusty hitting all rounder types and few specialist bowlers.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

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Reply #1468 –
Quote from: Professer E – on
The current English model is to play a heap of lusty hitting all rounder types and few specialist bowlers.

Yep the Poms play the numbers game, lots of reliable noodlers bowling option balls here and there, and the batting pressure off the top order because they bat deep.

There is a direct correlation between slowed run rates and bowling changes.

If you can get a bunch of blokes who can reliably bowl 1 or 2 over spells, not needing 2 or 3 overs just to get going, you put the brakes on batmen as they never really get 100% settled. The only problem it adds is that on a bad day you do have an issue getting through your overs.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ??

Reply #1469 –
Quote from: Professer E – on

The current English model is to play a heap of lusty hitting all rounder types and few specialist bowlers.

You're exactly right mate, and most of their ODI side won't ever play a Test either.

Life is pain....... anyone who says differently is selling something.