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Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ??

Reply #1470 –
Quote from: malo – on
You're exactly right mate, and most of their ODI side won't ever play a Test either.

That should be Starc's fate, but the problem is we don't pay enough for Test cricketers and they want limited overs money!

India put everyone to the sword because the BCCI is so rich, they basically pay their best players to regularly stand out of limited overs matches. Poms are starting to follow suit.

Until we get serious about it, and stop the half/half bullcrap, we won't recover in the cricket rankings. Limited overs is not a short form of Test Cricket, it's a whole different game!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ??

Reply #1471 –
Smith made AFR's rich list and punter is supposedly worth 100 million.   Test  cricket pays plenty of you're good enough.

Twenty twenty is for also rans.
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Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ??

Reply #1472 –
Quote from: Professer E – on
Smith made AFR's rich list and punter is supposedly worth 100 million.   Test  cricket pays plenty of you're good enough.

Twenty twenty is for also rans.

According to Gideon Haigh, one of the problems is that Shield cricketers are being paid far too much and there is little incentive for them to push for Test selection, particularly if there's IPL money on offer.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ??

Reply #1473 –
Quote from: DJC – on
According to Gideon Haigh, one of the problems is that Shield cricketers are being paid far too much and there is little incentive for them to push for Test selection, particularly if there's IPL money on offer.

Being paid too much in IPL and Big Bash, not in domestic and test cricket.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ??

Reply #1474 –
Quote from: Professer E – on
Smith made AFR's rich list and punter is supposedly worth 100 million.   Test  cricket pays plenty of you're good enough.

Twenty twenty is for also rans.

This is confusing income from off-field enterprises with wages from cricket.

You'll always get the odd player who has substantial business interests, what we need are blokes who focus on test cricket as cricketers.

But this is nothing new ProfE, as you know at just about any level except 1st class the T20 and other short form teams are usually quite different to the usual 1st Eleven. Even in small suburban clubs this is normal. But in recent years it's been one team fits all for Australia, mostly because it's the short form of the game that earns the test players the big money.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ??

Reply #1475 –
Quote from: LP – on
Being paid too much in IPL and Big Bash, not in domestic and test cricket.

Apparently the average Shield cricketer is on $300K  :o
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!
 

Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ??

Reply #1476 –
Quote from: DJC – on
Apparently the average Shield cricketer is on $300K  :o

That's like saying the AFL averages is now $340K.

Most do not earn that much, many only play a fraction of the available games, yet to get a game they have to train, travel and work as hard as someone who plays every game.

For a job that takes then all over the country working pretty much 7 days a week for at least half of the year it's not as glamorous as many think.

That is why IPL is so attractive, if they are any good at T20 they can earn a years wage in one game! BCCI know this, they know playing IPL disrupts the Test careers, so they took steps to make sure their own Test players were not as heavily affected. Other countries were slow to catch on!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ??

Reply #1477 –
Quote from: LP – on
That's like saying the AFL averages is now $340K.

Most do not earn that much, many only play a fraction of the available games, yet to get a game they have to train, travel and work as hard as someone who plays every game.

For a job that takes then all over the country working pretty much 7 days a week for at least half of the year it's not as glamorous as many think.

That is why IPL is so attractive, if they are any good at T20 they can earn a years wage in one game! BCCI know this, they know playing IPL disrupts the Test careers, so they took steps to make sure their own Test players were not as heavily affected. Other countries were slow to catch on!

Sorry LP but Shield cricketers are on a retainer of around $200K with match payments and bonuses on top of that.  $300K is what most non-Test aspirant Shield cricketers will earn.  In 2017, Australian Test cricketers were on a retainer of $816K with Smith on $1.5M.

It was interesting listening to John Hastings today.  He said that IPL is attractive to Shield cricketers because they may top up their earnings by around $130K in a very short season.  Very few are on the big bucks.  However, for countries like South Africa, where Test cricketers get around $200K, the IPL is more attractive.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ??

Reply #1478 –
The key there is "a very short season", that derails progress for the bulk of the year! ;)
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ??

Reply #1479 –
On a side note, doesn't matter how much you get you might give it away or worse if you're head isn't right, as Moises Henriques made plain on 7.30 Report tonight. Will be on iView I suspect. Black Dog's bitten a couple recently. No wonder the players assn was worried about the bad boys.

Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ??

Reply #1480 –
Any comments about the selected XI, to me it feels like a team to draw or lose!

I think we can expect a run feast over the last few days and not many wickets.

I got the irony of some fans calling for Mitch Marsh as a backup bowler in case one of the front line crew break-down, the irony being Mitch Marsh averages about 4 overs and would be the most likely one to break down!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ??

Reply #1481 –
An all-rounder not doing well enough with bat to hold a place,  and not bowling enough (which equates to not enough wickets as well)  to contribute.   Not surprised he was dropped.

Pace bowling all-rounders are gold,  but if we don't have one up to snuff,  look elsewhere

Could be a long couple days in the field with the weather  if we lose the toss and Starc sprays the pill around before lunch. Head might need to contribute a few overs.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ??

Reply #1482 –
I actually think this will be closer than people think - could be some good cricket ahead of us.

Hope so anyway.

Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ??

Reply #1483 –
We have a good first day and we will give them a lot of curry.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ??

Reply #1484 –
Quote from: Professer E – on
We have a good first day and we will give them a lot of curry.

I'm not sure that will be a problem.  Perhaps we could give them a good helping of roast beef - if that's not too politically incorrect  ;)
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!