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Re: The Ashes - Third Test @ Old Trafford

Reply #30 –
Quote from: cimm1979 – on
Iaj,

Gilchrist was a specialist bat with gloves.
Wade is a gloveman (an inconsistent one) with a bat.

Gilly was always a keeper, hence his shift from NSW to WA so he could play as one. He was an exceptional circumstance admittedly. Anyway, not so relevant here.

Sadly in Wade's case so is he an exceptional circumstance but for a different reason. 3nd highest average in the side (forgot about Warner) amongst a pile of sh1t, inconsistent batsmen. We only have so many bats on tour so our choices are bare. Not normal circumstances but if we're only going to pick from the current tourists there's no alot of choice.

I'd be going outside the 18 on tour personally so we don't have to pick a keeper as a specialist bat. May as well look to the home Ashes series.

We miss Hussey like you wouldn't believe. With him there he and Clarke, with strong resistance from the tail, often turned 3/40 into 500 and could've won us the SA series with a bit of luck. Without Hussey there's just no resistance after poor starts.

Re: The Ashes - Third Test @ Old Trafford

Reply #31 –
Prediction.  Game will be oer within 3 days.  Feel for the bowlers who are working so hard because of the incompetence of our batsmen.  You can blame them for injuirng pattinson. 

Re: The Ashes - Third Test @ Old Trafford

Reply #32 –
Quote from: cimm1979 – on
Iaj,

Gilchrist was a specialist bat with gloves.

Gilly changed cricket. Opened for the 50 over form of the game and was so good that we batted to #7 in the test squad and the former 6 were elite.
My favourite cricketer.
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Re: The Ashes - Third Test @ Old Trafford

Reply #33 –
Gilchrist was a freak! Test average higher than his first class batting average. That is just unreal, to improve further with the bat, against better opposition!

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/player/5390.html

Warner scored 193 in Aus A tour match overnight. This puts some serious pressure on Hughes and Smith to perform & keep their spots in the Aus 3 day match coming up...

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Reply #34 –
If we bat Agar at 6, we could drop Watson for Warner. Both wankers but I am sick of Watson.

I would play Ahmed, not Lyon.

I would also drop Siddle, and pick Harris, Starc and Bird.
 

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Reply #35 –
Quote from: raven – on
We could pick 11 bowlers, and have two of them share the keeping duties.

Our lower order batting would then be stellar... this is purely based on our 10th wickeet partnerships this series to date...  :P

This. Sadly we would probably be better off doing this than going with any of the other idea's put forward. SMH.
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Re: The Ashes - Third Test @ Old Trafford

Reply #36 –
Quote from: JonHenry – on
If we bat Agar at 6, we could drop Watson for Warner. Both wankers but I am sick of Watson.

I would play Ahmed, not Lyon.

I would also drop Siddle, and pick Harris, Starc and Bird.

Warner will come in for Hughes or Smith. Watson will stay in for his bowling. Besides, he's our leading runs scorer  of the top 6 in the two Tests so far...all of 109 runs...lol.

Re: The Ashes - Third Test @ Old Trafford

Reply #37 –
Quote from: raven – on
Gilchrist was a freak! Test average higher than his first class batting average. That is just unreal, to improve further with the bat, against better opposition!

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/player/5390.html

Warner scored 193 in Aus A tour match overnight. This puts some serious pressure on Hughes and Smith to perform & keep their spots in the Aus 3 day match coming up...

Maxwell made a century also which kind of reduces the credibility of Warners innings and ttells you the wicket must be a batters paradise.....

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Reply #38 –
Warner can make as many big scores as he likes against second string teams, it isn't going to make any difference because he has blotted his copybook once too many times. As soon as this Ashes tour is over, so will be his Test career.
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Re: The Ashes - Third Test @ Old Trafford

Reply #39 –
Ok for what it's worth here is my predicted team for the 3rd Test.

  • Rodgers
  • Watson
  • Warner
  • Khawaja
  • Clarke
  • Smith
  • Haddin
  • Harris
  • Siddle
  • Bird
  • Lyon

Harris, Siddle, Bird and Lyon as our front line bowlers with support from Watson, Smith and Warner. Only people that don't bowl in that line up are Clarke, Haddin and Rodgers. On a dusty wicket where it keeps down and is slow that might come in useful.

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Reply #40 –
If Lyon plays he would want to bowl 1000% better than he did on the weekend.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

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Reply #41 –
I do like Zaltman's work.

His latest here with a snippet below:
http://www.espncricinfo.com/blogs/content/story/656245.html

"6. None of the Australian batsmen is suffering from burnout
With ten Ashes Tests over the space of six months, maintaining mental and physical freshness will be critical. Australia's top-order batsmen have been clinically successful in ensuring that they do not suffer from debilitating crease fatigue."

As for the side, I am assuming Boof will go with the following (I'd happily drop Watson for Warner though!):

1.Rogers
2.Watson
3.Khawaja
4.Hughes
5.Clarke
6.Smith
7.Haddin
8.Harris
9.Siddle
10.Bird (in for Starc)
11.Lyon (in for Agar who needs a rest)

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Reply #42 –
Quote from: Professer E – on
If Lyon plays he would want to bowl 1000% better than he did on the weekend.

yes.

I actually don't understand why we don't send Fawad Ahmed over, especially if the pitch is going to spin. Poms would hate to face a good leggie on a truner.

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Reply #43 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Quote from: raven – on
Gilchrist was a freak! Test average higher than his first class batting average. That is just unreal, to improve further with the bat, against better opposition!

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/player/5390.html

Warner scored 193 in Aus A tour match overnight. This puts some serious pressure on Hughes and Smith to perform & keep their spots in the Aus 3 day match coming up...

Maxwell made a century also which kind of reduces the credibility of Warners innings and ttells you the wicket must be a batters paradise.....
Wicket was a absolute batter paradise but you still have to bat well top score a near double ton. Two of Warner's best Test innings though have been on real greentops. Before the Indian tour, where everyone failed on those dirty dustbowls, his average was near 45. India ripped that down alot. Despite what we think of him he's one of the very few in the team liable to make a big hundred, and quickly, scaring the fk out of the Poms. Love him batting away from opening as he could really take the game away from the opposition with the shine off the ball.

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Reply #44 –
Quote from: laj – on
Quote from: Professer E – on
If Lyon plays he would want to bowl 1000% better than he did on the weekend.

yes.

I actually don't understand why we don't send Fawad Ahmed over, especially if the pitch is going to spin. Poms would hate to face a good leggie on a truner.

Smaller grounds in England, he does bowl his share of loose stuff as well, didnt read much about him troubling the South Africans either.....be better in Aus to introduce him IMO.

We are a big chance this test IMO....Poms have got cocky and want to play Taylor, Panesar...the latter I dont rate at all and would be happy to see them lose Bresnan out of the team and have the two spinners play.
Taylor made runs for Sussex but is a newbie and was dropped several times in the county game so I dont rate him as yet. I reckon Pietersen will/would be due for runs this test esepcially if we bowl the spinners more....so I hope he is out injured.