Carlton Supporters Club

Its probably safe to say Collingwood won in the Daisy deal along with Adelaide in the Betts deal. We appear to have lost with both at the moment. Times might tell a different story in the future, but at the moment we are at a loss with both players. Lets hope the footy gods give us a break somewhere down the line at some stage.

How much does Tom Scully make?

Scully is only on 600k? What a game?

He was on a mil+ initially...and has gotten worse since then.

1. Really? Why then did Thomas play the 'no contract negotiations until the end of the season' game?
2. Unrestricted free agents can go to their club of choice.  Restricted free agents go to the highest bidder.  We declined to match Adelaide's bid and Collingwood declined to match ours.  I think Collingwood got that right.
3. Agreed

Yep.

The admin knew they only had so much money in the bank. Old Powder Balls had probably already offered Daisy the big coin so we knew there was no money left.

I heard Dermie the other day saying Carlton were right not to offer Betts the $450k he reportedly wanted .

His reasoning is that no small forward is worth that. He then shot himself in the foot by saying " unless it's Cyril Rioli" .

I started a thread some time ago showing the output of both Rioli and Betts and Eddie had Cyril covered in every aspect of the game. The only argument is that Cyril is a "big game player" , but I'd argue that the Hawks are a big game side which means he just performs at the level of those around him. That's not unusual for small forwards.

So I don't see it as beyond the realms of possibility that we could or should have held onto him.

We also now know Cyril is on $450k or better.

That's not the point I was trying to make. GWS mistakes do not absolve us of ours

CIMM, Cyril is an interesting one in that he has won games off his own boot.

Cyril is over-rated, if you put Betts in the forward line Rioli has mostly played in surrounded by Franklin and Roughead while getting delivery off blokes like Mitchell and Lewis, all the time with Hodge standing guard over him, and Betts would eclipse Rioli.

FFS, Magda Szubanski could kick goals in that setup!

x 2. Even Garlett (in his hey day) had Rioli covered statisitically. So overrated its sickening. Wouldnt mind having a crack at him though.

CIMM, Cyril is an interesting one in that he has won games off his own boot... but he's also played a lot of average games and I reckon that the glimpses of brilliance blind people to the long where he donesn't do much.  I watched him closely in a game last year (one of the finals from memory) and his efforts when he didn't get the ball were excremental.  He looked a very lazy one way runner....  great cream player and finisher but you wonder why he hasn't graduated to roles higher up the ground by now.

Hamstrings and tank.

Both very average.