Carlton Supporters Club

MM is quite clearly not inspiring these players - even if he has turned over half the list, there's no attitude change at all - we are as crap as we were two seasons ago!

I think our problems remain because our club behavior isn't changing, we still appear too tricky for our own good.

I want less effort of subterfuge and more effort on results.

I don't think Murphy is a bad leader, he has done well in the past but I doubt he is fit and ready to play. Don't be surprised if we hear at the end of this season that he has been struggling with an injury all season.

Last year 1AW limped through a season, Armfield, Jammo and Hendo as well, we are our own worst enemies in this regard. We claim to be playing the long term game, but we make short term decisions. This affects on field results and has nothing to do with our captain, it's a symptom of a club that has a bunch of players in survival mode!

Clubs like the Dawks or Geelong would have wrapped the better players in cotton wool ready for the next year and played the season out with the juniors to give them some experience. Instead we delay, delay, delay!

When it comes to decision making, we have the putting yips!

WE HAVE CAUSED THIS.

Hmmm, I think the ire of supporters and officials comes after the fact.

The ire of supporters and officials may very well come after the fact.

we gave a young draftee a round 1 debut, and due to circumstances outside of anyone's control he goes on as the sub after 1 minute, and all of a sudden it was the worst move in history.

Meanwhile, this same match is an idication that the coach should be sacked and this decision is one of the reasons.  Why?  Because a more seasoned bloke wasnt chosen yet, here we are trying to get a young kid up to speed of AFL footy.

I would be more concerned about our coach going into self preservation mode, and playing your David Ellards, Dennis Armfields and what not as the sub because they are focussing overly on winning games rather than blooding youngsters, yet have a look at everyone who is condemning that decision.

If we can't blood youngsters via the sub, then when can we?  We don't really want to blood a whole host of youngsters in one hit, particularly if they have played very few matches.

Even the decision not to play Casboult.  We are moaning about it a little, but lets face it, the issue last thursday is that we lacked mobility.  Would Casboult have helped that?  Only if he came in at the expense of Rowe, and we sent Henderson back, but on the form of last season, we had no reason to believe that this was a good decision aside from assisting our ruck division.  Which would not have benefitted majorly from having Casboult in (as his ruckwork has been average at best).

We have created an environment where the second the coach starts playing more for the benefit of our future, rather than the benefit of the present, he is walking on thin ice.  That is a recipe for having coaches constantly in self preservation mode, and to the detriment of developing our team.  That is a recipe for disaster.

You arguing against yourself, because we took three first Carlton game players into the season opener!

As for Smith I don't accept the early Sub as bad luck, the problem occurred at the selection table and was a design fault not a case of good or bad fortune!

If they want to give kids like Smith a run then select a side around him that can afford to carry him and play him from the start, not as a Sub and not surrounded by two or three other first game players.

We do not do the Sub well, and the Malthouse continually asking for the end of the Sub exposes that he doesn't understand or like it. FFS, how many times did we pick McLean as Sub and still go into the match with a top heavy side?

But some clubs do the Sub very, very, very well as part of a progressive game plan!

I like Lappin but is he head coach material?

Don't think so Carrots, but he could take a mean grab and snag a few goals.

Would love Dew to be our next coach.  By all reports, one of the better assistants going around