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Re: 2015 Rd2 Carlton vs West Coast Post Match Pain & Suffering

Reply #90
Oh purleeease enough of this kind of talk. Only the blind can't see what has happened here. He hasn't removed the filler, he's removed the fabric of the club. Blokes like Robbo, Betts and Waite that played for the jumper are gone. (no offence spf I know you're just playing devil's advocate)

Robbo jeffy lied to the club.....have to go
waite had a deal on the table.....he was not playing for the jumper...Went to norf....

Re: 2015 Rd2 Carlton vs West Coast Post Match Pain & Suffering

Reply #91
On last night's performance the removal of Robbo, Garlett, Betts and Waite only served to demonstrate one thing - we didn't remove enough of the so called senior players and leaders. That is where our problems are together with the coaching group that can't get through to them and isn't being listened to.
Reality always wins in the end.

Re: 2015 Rd2 Carlton vs West Coast Post Match Pain & Suffering

Reply #92
On last night's performance the removal of Robbo, Garlett, Betts and Waite only served to demonstrate one thing - we didn't remove enough of the so called senior players and leaders. That is where our problems are together with the coaching group that can't get through to them and isn't being listened to.

I have said gibbs murph simmo jammo carrotts trade
hendo is off to geelong I suspect...hope we get good compensation
judd to retire

 

Re: 2015 Rd2 Carlton vs West Coast Post Match Pain & Suffering

Reply #93
On last night's performance the removal of Robbo, Garlett, Betts and Waite only served to demonstrate one thing - we didn't remove enough of the so called senior players and leaders. That is where our problems are together with the coaching group that can't get through to them and isn't being listened to.

They are playing exactly the way they are coached, the problem is the way they are coached to play is mostly irrelevant to modern football and also doesn't suit our list!

Go back and watch the first few minutes of the 3rd term, you see a wide shot of the ground as we try to take the ball into F50. While we struggle to pick it up and use the ball on the fence line, three or four Wet Toaster's flood back across the outer wing and are standing spread across our CHF line waiting for us to bomb the ball. There is probably two or three of them for every Carlton forward!

We take the slow road to China every time, building compounds as we go, and when we get there we keep finding an army waiting at the border! It's fecking obvious!

FMD, the ancient Greeks knew the shortest way across a circle is through the centre. Our blokes look tired because the game plan requires them to run 50% more than their opponents. 30 seconds taking it around the boundary, 5 seconds watching it go back through the middle!

Finally the post match press conference, Malthouse struggles to recall even two or three names from the team he has coached for multiple seasons, do you lot need a clearer indicator it's over for him as a match day coach?

This is typical of the ageing process, stress causes an ever reducing number of neurons to misfire and people make bad or stupid decisions, they look confused and struggle to recall basic details after the fact!

It doesn't mean he isn't capable as a head coach or director of coaching, but he cannot match day coach, he looks confused and disorientated at times!
The Force Awakens!

Re: 2015 Rd2 Carlton vs West Coast Post Match Pain & Suffering

Reply #94
This is so true how did we let Mick get away with this? How do we sack him with no one to fill his shoes? SOS as caretaker?

We have Dean Laidley. He can do the job after Mick breaks the record. For a care taker he's be as good as it gets.

In the end we have to change the on-field culture or else nothing matters. We've got rid of our so-called problems there over the years and just made it worse. Off field stuff is so overrated. If they get a kick and do well on field that's all that matters.

Re: 2015 Rd2 Carlton vs West Coast Post Match Pain & Suffering

Reply #95
Ive actually never been more embarrassed to be a carlton supporter ever. Last night I was copping it massively from a fckin bummers supporter!! I've been a member since 96 but am yet to sign up this year. I still probably will but I'll be waiting for a win first. Absolutely gutted by where we are at. Just cannot believe it
 Cant see Juddy wanting another year.

Re: 2015 Rd2 Carlton vs West Coast Post Match Pain & Suffering

Reply #96
i said it pre season we have to change game plan for 2015 no more long bombs into our fwd line ,have a look at tigers game and last night how opp just run it out with ease.( defence is the best form of attack) so with our current game plan(under 10 style) we have nothing.

Re: 2015 Rd2 Carlton vs West Coast Post Match Pain & Suffering

Reply #97
Robbo jeffy lied to the club.....have to go
waite had a deal on the table.....he was not playing for the jumper...Went to norf....

 And what's it done for us?

That's the problem, overrated off field stuff. They don't have to go anywhere, not if it makes the side alot worse. Only one thing that counts, score on the board. Waite was still performing when he got back in the side.

You either want a decent on field line up or you want choir boys who are losers. You choice.

Re: 2015 Rd2 Carlton vs West Coast Post Match Pain & Suffering

Reply #98
We have Dean Laidley. He can do the job after Mick breaks the record. For a care taker he's be as good as it gets.

In the end we have to change the on-field culture or else nothing matters. We've got rid of our so-called problems there over the years and just made it worse. Off field stuff is so overrated. If they get a kick and do well on field that's all that matters.

So true huh....even with all his faults Fev would get us over the line over and over again, he'd draw supporters to the games.
Ignorance is bliss.

ONWARDS AND UPWARDS!

Re: 2015 Rd2 Carlton vs West Coast Post Match Pain & Suffering

Reply #99
I reckon a lot of our players think they are better footballers than they actually are.

They sell the dummy and get past an opponent only to run on and kick it to an opponent.

Not to mention the inability to run with an opponent.

thats the worst part, the lines get broken easily because of this.
This is an application issue

Re: 2015 Rd2 Carlton vs West Coast Post Match Pain & Suffering

Reply #100
And what's it done for us?

That's the problem, overrated off field stuff. They don't have to go anywhere, not if it makes the side alot worse. Only one thing that counts, score on the board. Waite was still performing when he got back in the side.

You either want a decent on field line up or you want choir boys who are losers. You choice.

You choose the 1980s I choose modern clubs like the geelong model...

Re: 2015 Rd2 Carlton vs West Coast Post Match Pain & Suffering

Reply #101
They are playing exactly the way they are coached, the problem is the way they are coached to play is mostly irrelevant to modern football and also doesn't suit our list!

Go back and watch the first few minutes of the 3rd term, you see a wide shot of the ground as we try to take the ball into F50. While we struggle to pick it up and use the ball on the fence line, three or four Wet Toaster's flood back across the outer wing and are standing spread across our CHF line waiting for us to bomb the ball. There is probably two or three of them for every Carlton forward!

We take the slow road to China every time, building compounds as we go, and when we get there we keep finding an army waiting at the border! It's fecking obvious!

FMD, the ancient Greeks knew the shortest way across a circle is through the centre. Our blokes look tired because the game plan requires them to run 50% more than their opponents. 30 seconds taking it around the boundary, 5 seconds watching it go back through the middle!

Finally the post match press conference, Malthouse struggles to recall even two or three names from the team he has coached for multiple seasons, do you lot need a clearer indicator it's over for him as a match day coach?

This is typical of the ageing process, stress causes an ever reducing number of neurons to misfire and people make bad or stupid decisions, they look confused and struggle to recall basic details after the fact!

It doesn't mean he isn't capable as a head coach or director of coaching, but he cannot match day coach, he looks confused and disorientated at times!

We haven't really looked like premiership material in the reign of 3 coaches and probably as many popes. The common denominator being the playing list, at least it's senior members.
Reality always wins in the end.

Re: 2015 Rd2 Carlton vs West Coast Post Match Pain & Suffering

Reply #102
We haven't really looked like premiership material in the reign of 3 coaches and probably as many popes. The common denominator being the playing list, at least it's senior members.

WRONG! Premiership faves in 2012, one kick from a prelim in 2011.
Ignorance is bliss.

ONWARDS AND UPWARDS!

Re: 2015 Rd2 Carlton vs West Coast Post Match Pain & Suffering

Reply #103
Robbo jeffy lied to the club.....have to go
waite had a deal on the table.....he was not playing for the jumper...Went to norf....

Mick's been lying to the club and supporters for 2 years now.
"We are a club in a hurry"

#united #reset

Re: 2015 Rd2 Carlton vs West Coast Post Match Pain & Suffering

Reply #104
How can Levi not show any form of kicking improvement? How?

Who is teaching him?

What do we do at training??

Says it all really.
"We are a club in a hurry"

#united #reset