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Re: Carlton pasted by Pies (Post Game)

Reply #180 –
Quote from: laj – on
Yes, putting Whiley on Pendlebury first game didn't exactly smack of intelligence.

It was an education if nothing else, not something the kid will forget in a hurry.
Depending on his character it could be the making of him.
The only thing in this world worth more than a hill of beans is the Carlton Football Club.

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Reply #181 –
We're done. Im sensing something is wrong at the club. It similarly reminds me of '78 before  Jezza took over.

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Reply #182 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
x2....Was playing at VFL pace and looked slow, Pendlebury is probably the best mid in the comp at the minute given Ablett is out and it was a tough ask coming in cold.
Worst thing we can do is drop him, I might have tempted to play him off half back after half time and let him take a lesser opponent to build some confidence...

x3...
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: Carlton pasted by Pies (Post Game)

Reply #183 –
whiley on penddles was a dumb move that had impact through the whole line up

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Reply #184 –
Agree re not writing Whiley off and I would rather him play on Pendles as opposed to starting as sub.
Ignorance is bliss.

ONWARDS AND UPWARDS!

Re: Carlton pasted by Pies (Post Game)

Reply #185 –
Quote from: thrunthrublu – on
whiley on penddles was a dumb move that had impact through the whole line up

I'm not suggesting it's right or wrong but suspect the club would explain it as a steep learning curve and with the loss of Carrazzo probably had no other option.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

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Reply #186 –
Quote from: Baggers – on
I'm not suggesting it's right or wrong but suspect the club would explain it as a steep learning curve and with the loss of Carrazzo probably had no other option.

It' easy to blame Whiley, but Pendels had two or three Pies players to give it off to every time he broke free. Who was on them would be the question I would ask!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #187 –
Quote from: LP – on
It' easy to blame Whiley, but Pendels had two or three Pies players to give it off to every time he broke free. Who was on them would be the question I would ask!

Great question and comes right back to our softness and lack of leadership, courage and initiative.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

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Reply #188 –
Quote from: blue4life – on
It was an education if nothing else, not something the kid will forget in a hurry.
Depending on his character it could be the making of him.

While(..y) didn't help win the game, I think it will show Whiley just how hard he needs to work.

Frustrating that Pendles goals came from free kicks though.

We give away far too many in our defensive 50...

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Reply #189 –
Quote from: LanceRomance – on
While(..y) didn't help win the game, I think it will show Whiley just how hard he needs to work.

Frustrating that Pendles goals came from free kicks though.

We give away far too many in our defensive 50...

We give away too many in our attacking 50 as well, two soft ones on Friday night 20 metres from our goal.
I remember Pagan playing Walker on Adam Goodes in one of his early games, he explained that it would teach Walker where to run and how hard he needed to work.
Playing Whiley on Pendlebury at least indicates that Malthouse has a decent opinion of him.
The only thing in this world worth more than a hill of beans is the Carlton Football Club.

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Reply #190 –
Quote from: blue4life – on
There are players from that draft still playing top football, Burgoyne played in a premiership side last year and Thompson won Adelaide's B&F and has been AA, we would have killed for Drew Petrie or Ted Richards at any time in the last 10 years.
The only current ten year players we have drafted are Simmo and Walks, the rest have disappeared without a trace.
We might have finally got one right with Cripps but I'm not convinced that trading pick 7 for Jacksch was good value, time will tell.
I reckon that's where our rebuild fell over.  Too much reliance on too few.

These days you need a good team with depth, not a few stars with a cast of triers.

St Kilda are the last side I can think of that went the latter and ironically were beaten to a flag by two teams that chose the former.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

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Reply #191 –
Quote from: Thryleon – on
I reckon that's where our rebuild fell over.  Too much reliance on too few.

Too many failed draft picks is the simple answer.
Since we got back in the draft in 2004 there isn't a single player on our list except Armfield taken outside of the first round apart from a couple in the last few years who have played the odd game and may or may not be on the list in 2017.
That's 10 years of misses, it can't be all bad luck.
Add to that first round misses like Lucas, Watson and Bootsma and there is our problem in a nut shell.
It wouldn't matter who the coach was, we don't have the cattle.
The only thing in this world worth more than a hill of beans is the Carlton Football Club.
 

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Reply #192 –
Club has been very very quiet over the weekend.

No player has come out and accepted responsibility?

Any players tweeted?
"We are a club in a hurry"

#united #reset

Re: Carlton pasted by Pies (Post Game)

Reply #193 –
Quote from: blue4life – on
Too many failed draft picks is the simple answer.
Since we got back in the draft in 2004 there isn't a single player on our list except Armfield taken outside of the first round apart from a couple in the last few years who have played the odd game and may or may not be on the list in 2017.
That's 10 years of misses, it can't be all bad luck.
Add to that first round misses like Lucas, Watson and Bootsma and there is our problem in a nut shell.
It wouldn't matter who the coach was, we don't have the cattle.

A coach, if done the right way, will make those players play better. Much of this group have played finals.

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Reply #194 –
Quote from: laj – on
A coach, if done the right way, will make those players play better. Much of this group have played finals.

As John Kennedy once said, you can boil them, fry them, curry them or bake them but they're still sausages.
The only thing in this world worth more than a hill of beans is the Carlton Football Club.