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Re: RD 7 : Blues V Giants (Pre-Match Pre-Amble)

Reply #75 –
Quote from: shadesy – on
When's the last time we hit a leading forward lace out, after cutting through the middle?
Last week when there was one good centre clearance and Judd ended up with the footy streaming out and hitting up Levi on the lead dead in front who converted. But thats once is 6 rounds, which is deplorable.

Jones must be dropped surely, give Watson a go.
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Re: RD 7 : Blues V Giants (Pre-Match Pre-Amble)

Reply #76 –
Quote from: Thryleon – on
I'm not so sure.

He definately looks like he is trying, and you can't say that our ball use has given him (or any of our forwards) much chance to show his stuff.

You're watching the wrong guy :P

Re: RD 7 : Blues V Giants (Pre-Match Pre-Amble)

Reply #77 –
Quote from: Thryleon – on
I'm not so sure.

He definately looks like he is trying, and you can't say that our ball use has given him (or any of our forwards) much chance to show his stuff.

He has failed to kick straight when he has had opportunities but I think he is not as bad as advertised and nor do I think that Watson will yield significantly different results if we delivered him the footy.

The other scenario is that things are still relatively new down there.  Our forward 6 I don't think couldnt have looked more different this season if we tried, and although we are losing patience we have no idea what is trying to be achieved currently.

Sure put in Watson though he has kicked a few goals in the VFL and deserves his chance at least.
There needs to be a connection between the mids and fwds. That is, they have the ability to pre-empt each others moves. Having said that, our mids have been terrible entering 50 this year but Jones hasnt made it easy for the mids by creating some extra space/gap.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: RD 7 : Blues V Giants (Pre-Match Pre-Amble)

Reply #78 –
Quote from: shadesy – on
Drool, Hoops to Fev...

[flash=400,400]https://www.youtube.com/v/M7lEN7hI_yo[/flash]

That's the way you do it - and I'm talking to you Jones!! Wonderful.

(Thanks Shades!)
Reality always wins in the end.

Re: RD 7 : Blues V Giants (Pre-Match Pre-Amble)

Reply #79 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
There needs to be a connection between the mids and fwds. That is, they have the ability to pre-empt each others moves. Having said that, our mids have been terrible entering 50 this year but Jones hasnt made it easy for the mids by creating some extra space/gap.

No doubt he hasnt helped, but our ball delivery has been attrocious at best.

The rainmaker kick that travels as high as it does long to any position only suits a couple of players that we have had in our forwardline across the journey.

1.  Fevola
2.  A resting ruckman and the 3 amigos
3.  To a lesser degree Levi.

Whilst that pass remains a feature of our play we will not achieve much unless we find a gun forward who is excellent at reading the flight of the ball coming in, and is strong enough to take a mark regardless of defensive pressure.  Given that we have just described only Levi of our current key position Forwards and we all know about his kicking, we are in a bit of trouble.  That was the pleasurable thing about Clem Smith against the Lions.  He didnt just go the bomb.  He kicked it lower, and harder.  It got cut off a few times, but it also creates an issue for the defenders.

They have to read it better going in to cut it off and mark it, and if they are not fast enough, they will get hit by the leading forward.  If that occurs and a collision is the result, the ball should spill rather than be a clean mark and rebound.  This hasnt been happening because of the kicking.

Fix that and we will instantly become a much better side.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: RD 7 : Blues V Giants (Pre-Match Pre-Amble)

Reply #80 –
Quote from: Thryleon – on
but our ball delivery has been attrocious at best.

I heard one report on the radio saying that our clearance rate is so high because opposition teams let us get the first kick out because they know we will turn it over and then we are easy pickings!!

Re: RD 7 : Blues V Giants (Pre-Match Pre-Amble)

Reply #81 –
Quote from: townsendcalling – on
I heard one report on the radio saying that our clearance rate is so high because opposition teams let us get the first kick out because they know we will turn it over and then we are easy pickings!!

i reckon that's pure BS.
Finals, then 4 in a row!

Re: RD 7 : Blues V Giants (Pre-Match Pre-Amble)

Reply #82 –
Surely with the quality of players coming back in this week, we ll see a much better effort across the board from our team.
Hope for some run and dare through the middle for once, and Yazz and Simmo coming back will help with that.Also, Hendo and Menz coming back will give a couple more quality targets up forward, and also hope that Levi will gain some confidence from his 4 goals last week and continue to attack the ball and crash the packs.
If Jamo also comes in, Id give Jones a run in the VFL along with probably Whiley, and Smith.

Re: RD 7 : Blues V Giants (Pre-Match Pre-Amble)

Reply #83 –
Quote from: townsendcalling – on
I heard one report on the radio saying that our clearance rate is so high because opposition teams let us get the first kick out because they know we will turn it over and then we are easy pickings!!

That scenario was discussed on here a few days ago.
Reality always wins in the end.

Re: RD 7 : Blues V Giants (Pre-Match Pre-Amble)

Reply #84 –
Quote from: townsendcalling – on
I heard one report on the radio saying that our clearance rate is so high because opposition teams let us get the first kick out because they know we will turn it over and then we are easy pickings!!
They can do that at their peril. When we get some confidence back and start hitting targets, fwit teams who employ this tactic will pay.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: RD 7 : Blues V Giants (Pre-Match Pre-Amble)

Reply #85 –
G2c you shiftioso......you know what they say about Italians. :P
Ignorance is bliss.

ONWARDS AND UPWARDS!

Re: RD 7 : Blues V Giants (Pre-Match Pre-Amble)

Reply #86 –
When you have bananas in the forward line who are either not there, not contesting or running into each other and then at the other end defenders who are isolated and separated and a midfield which won't run hard defensively this is an obvious tactic.

Re: RD 7 : Blues V Giants (Pre-Match Pre-Amble)

Reply #87 –
Quote from: PassIt2Carrots – on
G2c you shiftioso......you know what they say about Italians. :P
Che?
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: RD 7 : Blues V Giants (Pre-Match Pre-Amble)

Reply #88 –
Quote from: cookie2 – on
That's the way you do it - and I'm talking to you Jones!! Wonderful.

(Thanks Shades!)
Great memories , most of the goals were from 50 & beyond, our forwards would need 3 kicks to do it these days.properly kick backwards as well

Re: RD 7 : Blues V Giants (Pre-Match Pre-Amble)

Reply #89 –
In:Simon White,
  Chris Yarran,
  Matthew Watson,
  Troy Menzel,
  Andrew Carrazzo,
  Matthew Dick,
  Jason Tutt.

Out:  Clem Smith (Omitted),
  Mark Whiley (Omitted),
  Nick Graham (Omitted),
  Dylan Buckley (Omitted),
  Andrew Walker (Knee),
  Blaine Boekhorst (Omitted),
  Liam Jones (Omitted)
 
Graham stiff.... Tutt lucky...
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17