Carlton Supporters Club

I would argue they are trying to do that at present. Rightly or wrongly, it's the first sign of unity the upper eschelons of the club have shown for a while.

I think Logiudice and his faction + Trigg are presenting a united front

Do you think though that unity extends
-beyond the ruling faction to other members of the board
-to full support of the coach
-to full support of the playing group

The pres blinked in RD two and admitted we were rebuilding!
The press were all over it with talk of who's up for trade and what they are worth.
It comes out over the weekend that the "powers" spoke with Gibbs and Murphy to tell them they were "required".
So everyone else on the list KNOWS they are tradeable, If I was Henderson, Yarram, Casboult or any of the other 40 odd I would be telling my manager to get the best deal for me before Carlton tries to do the best deal for them, as the club does not rate them going forward.

This is a complete fiasco from the remnants of an appalling board that has presided over this club for nearly 20 years (pratts time excluded)

I've said it before and I say it again, time for a coup!!!!

IMO that phrase is insulting to the players who are currently on the list. It can also suggest to them that they are not good enough.

For God's sake, if the players are that bloody precious that hearing  that we are 'rebuilding' has scarred them, and scared them into playing soft, lazy, unaccountable footy, then they are right there demonstrating the exact reason why we need a clean out of the list.

When a company announces redundancies what do you think happens? Everyone starts working 16 hours shifts or they go screw this, put in the minimum amount of work and use their time productively for their own benefit?

For God's sake, if the players are that bloody precious that hearing  that we are 'rebuilding' has scarred them, and scared them into playing soft, lazy, unaccountable footy, then they are right there demonstrating the exact reason why we need a clean out of the list.

If the players are so heart broken after a loss, why is their effort so pitiful out on the ground?

It doesn't make any sense.

The only thing I can think of is that the heart break and tears are selfish and/or hypocritical.

Like probably many others, I'm angry with the players for embarrassing the jumper. We pay them good money and take time out of our week to watch them ply their craft and we are rewarded with the limp efforts of the last few weeks.

It's hard to support or take pride in the club/jumper when the players wearing the jumper and representing the club are showing no passion or pride.

For God's sake, if the players are that bloody precious that hearing  that we are 'rebuilding' has scarred them, and scared them into playing soft, lazy, unaccountable footy, then they are right there demonstrating the exact reason why we need a clean out of the list.

Going through it as we speak