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Re: Round 10: Carlton vs Adelaide Pre Game Palaver

Reply #45
I have to say it's been a raging success so far.

I was thinking the exact same thing myself. We need all players on the same page though. We will never get through this all time low if we don't have the same goals with all the players.
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Re: Round 10: Carlton vs Adelaide Pre Game Palaver

Reply #46
Seems a sure fire way of building resentment towards someone, which can and usually does manifest itself on the footy field.

Do other teams have a similar policy ?

Who knows.

It was player (leadership group) driven so the theory is it's supposed to help.

Can't help but think Yazz got hung out to dry after belting Chapman TBH.

But I'm not in the inner sanctum, so maybe Yazz agreed to it. You just don't know.
You can fool some of the people some of the time.......................................

 

Re: Round 10: Carlton vs Adelaide Pre Game Palaver

Reply #47
Foxfooty mentioned it's not the first time Yarran has been slack...
"...that's the thing about opinion - you don't have to know anything to have one..."  Andre Agassi commenting on Pat Cash 2004
"...the less you know - the more you believe..." - Bono 2006

Re: Round 10: Carlton vs Adelaide Pre Game Palaver

Reply #48
Who knows.

It was player (leadership group) driven so the theory is it's supposed to help.

Can't help but think Yazz got hung out to dry after belting Chapman TBH.

But I'm not in the inner sanctum, so maybe Yazz agreed to it. You just don't know.

He's been burnt twice in recent weeks, either by the club or members of it's leadership group, there is a massive tell!

I loved watching Yazz in navy blue, just like I loved watching Eddie!

Sayonara Yazz man, good luck for the future!  :-\

"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: Round 10: Carlton vs Adelaide Pre Game Palaver

Reply #49
Who knows.

It was player (leadership group) driven so the theory is it's supposed to help.

Can't help but think Yazz got hung out to dry after belting Chapman TBH.

But I'm not in the inner sanctum, so maybe Yazz agreed to it. You just don't know.

Thanks cimm.

He doesn't look happy, and hasn't most of the season. If he's agreeable, he has a funny way of showing it.

Re: Round 10: Carlton vs Adelaide Pre Game Palaver

Reply #50
I have to say it's been a raging success so far.

Exactly. Amateur hour. Why humiliating one person is considered sensible or jumping into cold water as a group likewise is beyond me.  ::)

Yarren is playing angry at the moment and it is not doing him or the team any good. He should have been told to take a week off, but dropping back to the seconds is clumsy.

I dont know what is going on with the fellow but he is in a bad place and the club is not doing him any favours with their ham fisted approach.

Re: Round 10: Carlton vs Adelaide Pre Game Palaver

Reply #51
There might be more to Yaz than many think or know about.
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Re: Round 10: Carlton vs Adelaide Pre Game Palaver

Reply #52
Exactly. Amateur hour. Why humiliating one person is considered sensible or jumping into cold water as a group likewise is beyond me.  ::)

Yarren is playing angry at the moment and it is not doing him or the team any good. He should have been told to take a week off, but dropping back to the seconds is clumsy.

I dont know what is going on with the fellow but he is in a bad place and the club is not doing him any favours with their ham fisted approach.

These sorts of punishments are usually issued after players agree to  certain standard of behaviour.

If the agreement was that "you will be on time otherwise x happens and if it happens again, you get dropped" it might be just as clumsy to let him off the hook.

You just don't know.

He's off his feed at the moment and I just want him playing good footy. But we went through this with Jeffy and all you end up with is a player people are interested in but they don't have to pay fair value. Robbo, Eddie, Jeffy.

The only guy we shipped off and got good return was Fev, but you only get one M Voss in your footy life.
You can fool some of the people some of the time.......................................

Re: Round 10: Carlton vs Adelaide Pre Game Palaver

Reply #53
These sorts of punishments are usually issued after players agree to  certain standard of behaviour.

If the agreement was that "you will be on time otherwise x happens and if it happens again, you get dropped" it might be just as clumsy to let him off the hook.

You just don't know.

He's off his feed at the moment and I just want him playing good footy. But we went through this with Jeffy and all you end up with is a player people are interested in but they don't have to pay fair value. Robbo, Eddie, Jeffy.

The only guy we shipped off and got good return was Fev, but you only get one M Voss in your footy life.

Fair point, and i dont know. But this is the time to fake an injury rather than issue a public statement that he was late to a team meeting. It humiliates the man and makes it harder to come back to the group. Given how fractured the group is right now, the management consultant in me says this is a high risk low return play.

We got smacked by 10 goals last week and the week before saw us smashed and lay only 35 tackles. Something tells me that a focus on the more important stuff might be the wiser path than demoting a player for rocking up a bit late to a meeting. Must be a few other players counting their lucky stars they got a senior game again.

Anyway, i am assuming a fair bit and dont know the whole story, but i dont like to see an individual hung out like that for a very minor infringement. Good to see Kruezer back, and maybe we can give it a shake. Go blues

Re: Round 10: Carlton vs Adelaide Pre Game Palaver

Reply #54
Fair point, and i dont know. But this is the time to fake an injury rather than issue a public statement that he was late to a team meeting. It humiliates the man and makes it harder to come back to the group. Given how fractured the group is right now, the management consultant in me says this is a high risk low return play.

We got smacked by 10 goals last week and the week before saw us smashed and lay only 35 tackles. Something tells me that a focus on the more important stuff might be the wiser path than demoting a player for rocking up a bit late to a meeting. Must be a few other players counting their lucky stars they got a senior game again.

Anyway, i am assuming a fair bit and dont know the whole story, but i dont like to see an individual hung out like that for a very minor infringement. Good to see Kruezer back, and maybe we can give it a shake. Go blues

But he's not hung out by the group, everyone knows who's injured and who gets dropped for disciplinary reasons... But he is being hung out for the supporters to feast upon... Is that to motivate him or to allow some to firm an opinion to move him on ?
Are we being softened up ?
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Re: Round 10: Carlton vs Adelaide Pre Game Palaver

Reply #55
Yarran rocked up late and got a weeks holiday...fair enough IMO and if he wants to sook about it then he can go back to WA and we will get someone more disciplined and less sensitive....
If we rock up late to work the boss doesnt buy you a latte and say well done son does he?


Re: Round 10: Carlton vs Adelaide Pre Game Palaver

Reply #56
There are a lot of assumptions being made about the Yarran situation, with some conclusions sounding completely over the top IMO.
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Re: Round 10: Carlton vs Adelaide Pre Game Palaver

Reply #57
But he's not hung out by the group, everyone knows who's injured and who gets dropped for disciplinary reasons... But he is being hung out for the supporters to feast upon... Is that to motivate him or to allow some to firm an opinion to move him on ?
Are we being softened up ?

Maybe. But im yet to see any example of humiliation in such a public fashion helping one's motivation. It stretches trust with a group further and eventually it breaks.

Perhaps it is part of some grand plan to establish and determine if he is to stay or be moved on. I have my doubts however, as the club has proven so inept that i can't see them actually excecuting such a plan and it would seem clumsy anyway.

Fear he will be at another club next year.

Re: Round 10: Carlton vs Adelaide Pre Game Palaver

Reply #58
Maybe. But im yet to see any example of humiliation in such a public fashion helping one's motivation. It stretches trust with a group further and eventually it breaks.

Perhaps it is part of some grand plan to establish and determine if he is to stay or be moved on. I have my doubts however, as the club has proven so inept that i can't see them actually excecuting such a plan and it would seem clumsy anyway.

Fear he will be at another club next year.

If he keeps on coming late to training he will be at another club, just because  a no name like Barker is coach it doesnt mean its holiday time or we are running club med Carlton for precious,
sensitive individuals.

Re: Round 10: Carlton vs Adelaide Pre Game Palaver

Reply #59
There are a lot of assumptions being made about the Yarran situation, with some conclusions sounding completely over the top IMO.

That bloke is a match winner, you don't throw the baby out with the bath water, they can discipline him all they like but they don't have to drag him through the mud to do it!

My comments have nothing to do with dealing with Yarran from a discipline perspective, my concern is the public nature of it that is completely unnecessary! It's almost bullying!

Crape like that is In-House, not Open-House!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"