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Re: Jarryd Hayne

Reply #75 –
Quote from: DJC – on
Hayne is back on the 49ers' roster and is set to play . . .

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Just a few hours after San Francisco 49ers head coach Jim Tomsula confirmed Reggie Bush as the team's top punt returner, Hayne was thrown a lifeline and is set to play the St Louis Rams on Sunday (Monday AEDT).

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/sport/us-sports/injury-paves-way-for-jarryd-hayne-nfl-return-for-san-francisco-49ers-20151030-gknj4f.html#ixzz3qKKn3mnf

 ???

Isn't that last weeks news.....Before he was cut?
They played the Rams on the weekend.
I don't think he's been reinstated yet.

Re: Jarryd Hayne

Reply #76 –
Quote from: Lods – on
???

Isn't that last weeks news.....Before he was cut?
They played the Rams on the weekend.
I don't think he's been reinstated yet.

I think the Age mixed up the links.  The correct article is reporting that Reggie Bush has a suspected torn ACL and Mike Davis injured his foot.  Of course that doesn't mean that they'll reinstate Hayne.

In fact, if I understand the system, other clubs have first dibs.
"Negative waves are not helpful. Try saying something righteous and hopeful instead." Oddball

Re: Jarryd Hayne

Reply #77 –
Apparently, he cleared waivers.  He'll therefore stay with SF and we'll have to wait on whether he'll be on the practice squad or not: click HERE.
 

Re: Jarryd Hayne

Reply #78 –
The AFL should bring a system like this in for rookies. Let clubs shuffle them around to cover early season long term injuries, etc., etc. Perhaps with a 1/4 to 1/3 season cut-off.

It would stop clubs having ruined seasons due to early injuries, and make the smaller lists far more manageable.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: Jarryd Hayne

Reply #79 –
There used to be a mid-season draft but it was dumped because clubs didn't use it.

Of course, there is a big difference in the way the 2 competitions handle contracts.  In the NFL, contracts aren't really contracts.  Unless the contract is "guaranteed", it can be terminated at a moment's notice and no payout is needed.  That makes it far easier for teams to shuffle their decks by waiving players and signing others up.  The AFLPA would scream blue murder if the AFL tried to take away the security of fixed contracts in the name of adding flexibility to lists.  The players may, however, undermine the sanctity of fixed-term contracts if players having a year or more left on their contracts continue to insist on trades to designated clubs or else they'll refuse to play.

Re: Jarryd Hayne

Reply #80 –
practice squad it is, they signed up someone else.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: Jarryd Hayne

Reply #81 –
In the week off before finals they should introduce a mini trade week where you can trade a hendo or Yarran into a finals side for their draft picks at the end of the year  ;D

Re: Jarryd Hayne

Reply #82 –
Quote from: Lods – on
Well Kruddler was right.

You don't get to drop the ball too often ;D

Sky News reporting....
Hayne has been 'released' by the 49ers
Get the first plane home Jarryd....and we'll rookie draft you ;)

( Edit: It seems as though the 49ers have dropped Hayne to elevate another player. They can drop Hayne back to their non-playing squad or he can be picked up by another team.)


http://www.foxsports.com.au/us-sports/nfl/jarryd-hayne-san-francisco-49ers-australian-waived-to-make-way-for-running-back-kendall-gaskins/story-fnp3l4e4-1227589708199

Don't sound so shocked lods! :P

Funny how this game works. I tried telling everyone that it was ideal in his first game when his main competition went down early, giving him plenty of exposure. He didn't do anything explosive, and made a few mistakes. Cest la vie.

However, since then he has made a few more. On top of that the 2 blokes in front of him at Running back have been in and out through injury (VERY RARE) and instead of Hayne, your #3 guy stepping up into the #1 role, they decided, rightly, to get someone else in who was capable.

It is simply too soon for Hayne to be expected to carry the #1 role as running back.

He is now in the practice squad which is akin to your rookie list here, but with less benefits in terms of playing.

If he was to go somewhere else, and eventually he probably will, he would have to learn more plays. Although a lot of the plays would be similar, its the nomenclature that would catch you out as much as anything initially. Every team has their own names for their own plays - even though each team uses a basic set of plays.

He is doing everything he possibly can and is going into it with the right attitude. He can do no more than that. He simply just needs to perform when given opportunities.

NFL is a lot more cutthroat than AFL.

They don't have to play you to your strengths.
They don't have to give you opportunities.
If you are there, you do what you have to until you are called upon. When you are, DON'T mess up.

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Reply #83 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
Don't sound so shocked lods! :P

I don't think that's the impression I was aiming for....Not shocked at all.

In fact it's panned out pretty much as you said..... and I think I've credited you with that before. ;)

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I'll admit I know very little about it .
So yep you called it pretty right.

However if he turns it around..... you've just earned yourself a big dose of "You don't know what you're talking about." :P :D

Re: Jarryd Hayne

Reply #84 –
I know Lods, i was joking. ;)

He may well turn it around, but i dont think it'll be this year.

My issue was everyone was pumping him up (media) to be the greatest thing since sliced bread. Reality was, he is just another 1 of 1000's who is trying out for a limited number of spots. The reason he was singled out over the other 1000's was because he was from Australia and did a couple of things that were.....unorthodox.

He IS a talented player, but i don't care how talented you are, you can't simply walk into a sport you have never played and expect to compete with 350million americans who eat, sleep and breathe the sport. He will try continue to practice and learn and may bounce around a few teams for a while before he makes it....if ever.

For the record, i never said he wouldn't make it. I said it was unlikely. VERY unlikely he lives up to even 1/100th of the hype that has surrounded him, both here and in the US.

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Reply #86 –
49ers fabs aren't too pleased about Haynes' demotion.  One bloke tweeted:

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Jarryd Hayne in 2015: 8 carries, 25 yards

49ers running backs today: 11 carries, 2 yards
"Negative waves are not helpful. Try saying something righteous and hopeful instead." Oddball

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Reply #87 –
@DJC...
Seems simple and clear cut when you put it like that.

However, as i showed in my play by play analysis, some of Haynes runs in his first game were nothing runs.
3rd and long situations were the defense is protecting the long ball / first down, they will allow a run that gets a few extra yards but not a first down. It means nothing.

In AFL terms, in being 12 goals up and letting the opposition get a goal in the final minute of a game. Meh.

Re: Jarryd Hayne

Reply #88 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
@DJC...
Seems simple and clear cut when you put it like that.

However, as i showed in my play by play analysis, some of Haynes runs in his first game were nothing runs.
3rd and long situations were the defense is protecting the long ball / first down, they will allow a run that gets a few extra yards but not a first down. It means nothing.

In AFL terms, in being 12 goals up and letting the opposition get a goal in the final minute of a game. Meh.

Yes Kruddler, it's a little like some of the comments passionate supporters make here, and presumably in other forums and about other codes.  They're also calling for the 49ers coach's head :)

There's a very good analysis of Hayne's demotion and his future prospects by Cam Inman of Fox Sports:

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SPARE Jarryd Hayne any pity that his return Monday to the 49ers comes with a demotion to the practice squad.

His NFL dream remains alive, and this will offer him further lessons so he make a true impact next season — or perhaps later this year.

No, he’s not eligible to play in games unless he’s brought back up to the active roster, and any competitor would hate to not suit up on Sundays.

Hayne, all indications are, is OK with this switch because he knows it’s part of his growth process.

He’s been humble and professional since Day 1, and he was that way Saturday when the 49ers waived him. General manager Trent Baalke said Hayne can cope so well because he’s a 27-year old guy who’s spent a decade in the world of professional athletics.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/us-sports/nfl/nfl-cam-inman-breaks-down-what-the-practice-squad-demotion-means-for-49ers-rookie-jarryd-hayne/story-fnp3l4e4-1227592908135

It's definitely worth a read.
"Negative waves are not helpful. Try saying something righteous and hopeful instead." Oddball

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Reply #89 –
Quote from: DJC – on
They're also calling for the 49ers coach's head :)
I agree that such a call would be OTT if it were based solely on the demotion of Hayne.  But I would think many people would agree he should get the chop simply for being a crap coach.

There's a guy who is a contributor on KB's Hungry for Sports show.  I can't remember his name, but he's a Yank from Sacramento who comments on US sports.  He also happens to be a big 49ers fan.  He was predicting before the season began that the 49ers would be duds because Tomsula is crap and because they cleared out their good players.  Remember that last year they had Jim Harbaugh as coach and he was highly regarded.  The contributor claimed that there was a behind-the-scenes power struggle between Harbaugh and someone else, either the owner or CEO.  That other person was jealous of the accolades that Harbaugh attracted as he felt that he was the real reason that the 49ers had enjoyed success.  Thus Harbaugh was dumped so this guy could show he could make the 49ers a success even if he hired a monkey to coach.  So Tomsula was selected as no one really rated him (he had been the defensive line coach at the 49ers for years, but as we all know being an assistant coach doesn't mean you have what it takes to run the show).  Now the 49ers stink and Harbaugh is dominating at College level again.