Re: Culture Reply #45 – September 17, 2015, 08:44:14 am Just remember Robinson was sacked for lying, we let him get away with numerous off field incidents. Quote Selected
Re: Culture Reply #46 – September 17, 2015, 09:03:01 am Quote from: madbluboy – on September 16, 2015, 09:06:10 pmI would rather better players than both of them who aren't dickheads.True but when we have to choose, we go with the wrong ones. Quote Selected
Re: Culture Reply #47 – September 17, 2015, 10:22:46 am Quote from: PassIt2Carrots – on September 17, 2015, 06:50:58 amI would say players with a history of not putting their body on the line, tackling and taking one for the team are far more damaging to any culture and certainly not towing the line. Culture starts on field, trying to correct it by punishing someone for off field misdemeanors, especially when they provide great culture on field is just dumb.So by the above definition, Jeffy was let go for all the right reasons as he is a serial ducker who sleeps with the lights on. Quote Selected
Re: Culture Reply #48 – September 17, 2015, 10:46:30 am Quote from: MosquitoFleet – on September 14, 2015, 10:08:15 pmCarltons cultural problem is driven by its constitutionWhen you have board directors that have a guaranteed 12 years of sitting on the board things turn too slowly. ..we have directors like gleeson who are still on the board since pagans days...this ^the stench will never go away unless you get rid of the excrement. Andrew Mckay included. Quote Selected
Re: Culture Reply #49 – September 17, 2015, 11:55:39 am Quote from: Gointocarlton – on September 17, 2015, 10:22:46 amSo by the above definition, Jeffy was let go for all the right reasons as he is a serial ducker who sleeps with the lights on.Under Mick he became this definitely, was far from under the previous regime. Quote Selected
Re: Culture Reply #50 – September 17, 2015, 11:57:31 am Quote from: madbluboy – on September 17, 2015, 08:44:14 amJust remember Robinson was sacked for lying, we let him get away with numerous off field incidents.Pretty sure those off field incidents involved him getting sucker punched. Hardly his fault. The lying wasn't ideal but he had Mick's Sword of Damocles dangling over his head from Mick's day one. His lying was a product of his insecurities which fall on the head of Falthouse. Quote Selected
Re: Culture Reply #51 – September 17, 2015, 12:04:54 pm Quote from: PassIt2Carrots – on September 17, 2015, 11:57:31 amPretty sure those off field incidents involved him getting sucker punched. Hardly his fault. The lying wasn't ideal but he had Mick's Sword of Damocles dangling over his head from Mick's day one. His lying was a product of his insecurities which fall on the head of Falthouse.Different rules for different players with Mick....culture was all bad at Collingwood with Shaw, Didak, Tarrant, Johnson all offending but it took Buckley to move the ratpack on asMick wasnt going to push stars out who could help win him a flag.....http://www.smh.com.au/national/didak-shaw-out-for-season-20080804-3q6a.html Quote Selected
Re: Culture Reply #52 – September 17, 2015, 12:39:00 pm Mick could have begged for Robbo to stay and it would have made no difference. The decision was made, blaming the coach for all these decisions just highlights how little you know about how football clubs actually work. Quote Selected
Re: Culture Reply #53 – September 17, 2015, 01:43:10 pm Quote from: PassIt2Carrots – on September 17, 2015, 11:57:31 amPretty sure those off field incidents involved him getting sucker punched. Hardly his fault. The lying wasn't ideal but he had Mick's Sword of Damocles dangling over his head from Mick's day one. His lying was a product of his insecurities which fall on the head of Falthouse.One was trying to calm down a drunken buddy(BDO), the other was a sucker punch coming to Garlett's aid.Robbo was in the gun the moment he punched that ball through the behind post, no matter how hard he tried to make things right! Quote Selected
Re: Culture Reply #54 – September 17, 2015, 01:51:15 pm Quote from: LP – on September 17, 2015, 01:43:10 pmOne was trying to calm down a drunken buddy(BDO), the other was a sucker punch coming to Garlett's aid.Robbo was in the gun the moment he punched that ball through the behind post, no matter how hard he tried to make things right!He made up for that straight away, f%^& you write some rubbish. Quote Selected
Re: Culture Reply #55 – September 17, 2015, 02:42:49 pm Quote from: madbluboy – on September 17, 2015, 01:51:15 pmHe made up for that straight away, f%^& you write some rubbish.It didn't stop MM ripping him a new one when he come to the boundary line, or unloading to the media about him at the post match press conference! After that day he became MM's whipping boy, it was obvious to everybody! F%^& you are blinded by your MM love! Quote Selected Last Edit: September 17, 2015, 02:53:19 pm by LP
Re: Culture Reply #56 – September 17, 2015, 03:01:36 pm Quote from: PassIt2Carrots – on September 17, 2015, 11:57:31 amPretty sure those off field incidents involved him getting sucker punched. Hardly his fault. fall on the head of Falthouse.Garlett was out injured at the time and was on a strict recovery regime. He was not supposed to be out at 5am Sunday morning blind as a bat.Don't defend the indefendable. And Garlett has been a s0ft c0ck since the day he was born and will die one. Quote Selected
Re: Culture Reply #57 – September 17, 2015, 06:58:31 pm Quote from: PassIt2Carrots – on September 17, 2015, 11:55:39 amUnder Mick he became this definitely, was far from under the previous regime.So what are you trying to say? Mick taught Jeffy to duck his head??People also forget that Robbo was offered a contract mid-season yet turned it down and wanted to wait until the end of the year. He tried to back himself in to get a better one (or perhaps look elsewhere, we'll never know). It backfired and nobody is to blame but himself.Yes, he played some good footy elsewhere. Is that our fault? He made his bed... Quote Selected
Re: Culture Reply #58 – September 17, 2015, 07:59:37 pm I reckon we would have shipped him anyway. At least our silliness hasn't also resulted in us paying part of his wage as well I guess. Quote Selected
Re: Culture Reply #59 – September 17, 2015, 08:16:19 pm Quote from: kruddler – on September 17, 2015, 06:58:31 pmSo what are you trying to say? Mick taught Jeffy to duck his head??No, Mick was unable to keep Garlett (among many others') eye on the ball. These guys were flying under Ratts and dropped off ore and more under Mick. Mick was a confidence sucker. Garlett as just one victim of his inability to get players playing at their best. Quote Selected