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Reply #60
No, Mick was unable to keep Garlett (among many others') eye on the ball. These guys were flying under Ratts and dropped off ore and more under Mick. Mick was a confidence sucker. Garlett as just one victim of his inability to get players playing at their best.

Garlett and Mick were best mates in his 1st year. Garlett buddied up to him and was his kick to kick partner in the warmups. A role that daisy had at collingwood.

Now since then he sucked the life out of him to the point where he made Jeffy start ducking his head.
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Reply #61
No need, I'm just going by his immense drop in form coinciding with the change of coach and combined with others around him. Then of course the form reversal under the new coach. Maybe he would've gone better under the guidance of the inanimate carbon rod? After all, the coach does fk all. ????
Ignorance is bliss.

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Reply #62
No need, I'm just going by his immense drop in form coinciding with the change of coach and combined with others around him. Then of course the form reversal under the new coach. Maybe he would've gone better under the guidance of the inanimate carbon rod? After all, the coach does fk all. ????

Just like your brain if that's all you have got out of my posts on the matter.

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Reply #63
It all leads back to the same thing with you. ????
Ignorance is bliss.

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Reply #64
So Mick is responsible for Robbo punching on at the big day out, Garlett's girlfriend troubles and Yarran's dad killing a bloke?
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

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Reply #65
Mick sucked the life out of the club. What about every other bloke that stopped trying you got an excuse for them as well?
Ignorance is bliss.

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Reply #66
Mick sucked the life out of the club. What about every other bloke that stopped trying you got an excuse for them as well?

You're the one using Mick as an excuse for our player's shortcomings.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

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Reply #67
So have some players publicly since he left, albeit in a Thryleon kind of way. ????
Ignorance is bliss.

ONWARDS AND UPWARDS!

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Reply #68
You're the one using Mick as an excuse for our player's shortcomings.

I can't help but think that it is incredibly naive of you, Kruddler and Thry to use the players as an excuse for Malthouse's shortcomings.

The club finally realised that he was destroying our list and our culture and took action to remove him before it was too late.  No matter how you try to spin it, the appointment of Malthouse was a disaster.  It will be a real test of our culture, not to mention Bolton's character, to see if we can rebound from the lowest we've been since the worst days of Pagan.
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

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Reply #69
One of the things we will never really be able to prove is what was holding our culture back. If things improve over the next season it will be a combination of new coaches, game plans, training strategies, development of players and all the people at the club, recruiting etc. All of these changes will be helping us move forward, but to point the finger at the previous coach will be a difficult prove. Getting a new coach will be the beginning of the new Carlton, but if that is where it happens is not the be all end all.

I do however feel strongly believe we must improve, develop and move to a better place than the bottom of the ladder. That can never, ever happen again and I suspect it won't. ;)
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Reply #70
Brendon says the past is past and we all have to board the future train or be stuck there. Doesn't understand the point of chat rooms, does he?

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Reply #71
I can't help but think that it is incredibly naive of you, Kruddler and Thry to use the players as an excuse for Malthouse's shortcomings.

The club finally realised that he was destroying our list and our culture and took action to remove him before it was too late.  No matter how you try to spin it, the appointment of Malthouse was a disaster.  It will be a real test of our culture, not to mention Bolton's character, to see if we can rebound from the lowest we've been since the worst days of Pagan.

This is silly.

People are misrepresenting points everywhere here to try and win some petty argument about nothing.

We are not being naive, we simply don't have the same viewpoint as you.

In fact no matter what point we make, those who disliked Malthouse have a rebuttal argument and that's because you can see things as you want to see it.

Sometimes we will be right, sometimes we will be wrong and usually whether you agree will be regarding which way you are partial to begin with.

It's all a matter of perspective.

You ask Malthouse what he was trying to do, and you're going to get an answer that you won't believe,  because you and others who share your view have already shaped your opinion based upon factors you have already weighed up.

Nothing wrong with it, except when we start slinging mud at each other.

In any case it's done.  We are starting again.  Culturally we have cut away a part of the club that will change it forever and sometimes you cut good with bad to get where we need to go, so let's hope we can get where we need to go with Bolton.






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Reply #72
In any case it's done.  We are starting again.  Culturally we have cut away a part of the club that will change it forever and sometimes you cut good with bad to get where we need to go, so let's hope we can get where we need to go with Bolton.

Wholeheartedly agree with this Thry.
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

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Reply #73
Wholeheartedly agree with this Thry.

As long as our so called leaders stay we haven't cut away enough.
Murphy, Gibbs and Walker all need to find greener pastures where piss weak efforts are not tolerated and they are in the minority.
Only then will our culture change.

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Reply #74
Ironic that Murphy had poor words to say about Robbo when he couldn't tie Robbo's shoelaces when it comes to on field commitment.
Ignorance is bliss.

ONWARDS AND UPWARDS!