Re: Culture Reply #135 – September 20, 2015, 02:13:31 pm Quote from: kruddler – on September 20, 2015, 01:58:37 pmWas there any video footage of Shaw and Didak?Did it make the papers and the national news at the time?Similar, but different.So Similar its the same..... Didak said to the eye witness they swerved to avoid a Possum... http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/eddie-must-act-on-didak-and-shaw/story-e6frf7jo-1111117109916http://www.smh.com.au/national/didak-shaw-out-for-season-20080804-3q6a.htmlhttp://www.sportal.com.au/afl/news/shaw-would-lie-to-pies-again/1hhl28abnyhpz18e7p758pp9rahttp://www.perthnow.com.au/news/bans-for-pie-eyed-crash-liars/story-e6frg12c-1111117110818http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2008/s2325127.htmhttp://www.news.com.au/news/pies-to-move-on-didak-shaw/story-fna7dq6e-1111117108838 Quote Selected
Re: Culture Reply #136 – September 20, 2015, 02:29:19 pm I know there was coverage of it, obviously, but was it mentioned on the nightly news where video footage was shown. I can't recall either of that happening.Ditto, with Robbo and the BDO brawl.People find it harder to foget video evidence. Quote Selected
Re: Culture Reply #137 – September 20, 2015, 05:20:26 pm Quote from: Robert Walls Goes Bang!Two coaches who will go into the final year of their contracts in 2016 are Hardwick and Buckley. Neither Richmond nor Collingwood should feel obliged to extend their tenure.Some will argue that it didn't help Carlton and Malthouse who went into the exact same position earlier this year. But there is a difference. And that is, both Hardwick and Buckley are not as selfish or insecure as Malthouse was, and will put their club's interest ahead of their own.That's were our culture went!Here Endeth the Lesson! Quote Selected Last Edit: September 20, 2015, 05:34:36 pm by LP
Re: Culture Reply #138 – September 20, 2015, 06:06:29 pm Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on September 20, 2015, 01:50:50 pmSwann and Mick .......Shaw, Didak etc...Swann and Mick .......Robbo, Jeffy etc..Swann may have pulled the trigger but Mick would have checked the gun so it was the same regime but different rules for different players...thats my point....Incorrect, Swann was already gone. Quote Selected
Re: Culture Reply #139 – September 20, 2015, 06:09:34 pm Quote from: LP – on September 20, 2015, 05:20:26 pmThat's were our culture went!Here Endeth the Lesson!Exactly. Quote Selected
Re: Culture Reply #140 – September 20, 2015, 06:30:32 pm Quote from: madbluboy – on September 20, 2015, 06:06:29 pmIncorrect, Swann was already gone.Yep you are right but I still say Mick would have rubber stamped the outgoing players and tooka different approach than when he was at Collingwood.. Quote Selected
Re: Culture Reply #141 – September 20, 2015, 06:36:26 pm Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on September 20, 2015, 06:30:32 pmYep you are right but I still say Mick would have rubber stamped the outgoing players and tooka different approach than when he was at Collingwood..EB1 we still have a major problem with player development. It's my opinion we still have some rather ordinary coaches who possibly retain their job by potting players. That's also a culture killer! Quote Selected
Re: Culture Reply #142 – September 20, 2015, 07:51:46 pm Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on September 20, 2015, 06:30:32 pmYep you are right but I still say Mick would have rubber stamped the outgoing players and tooka different approach than when he was at Collingwood..Why? Quote Selected
Re: Culture Reply #143 – September 20, 2015, 08:05:36 pm Quote from: madbluboy – on September 20, 2015, 07:51:46 pmWhy?Mick wouldnt move core influential players ie ratpackers on who could help win him a flag......different at Carlton where the stakes were not as high and his bad boys Robbo, Garlett, Waite etcwere moved on... Quote Selected
Re: Culture Reply #144 – September 20, 2015, 08:06:57 pm Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on September 20, 2015, 08:05:36 pmMick wouldnt move core influential players ie ratpackers on who could help win him a flag......different at Carlton where the stakes were not as high and his bad boys Robbo, Garlett, Waite etcwere moved on...OK, so riddle me this.If those same ratpackers were causing trouble and collingwood were not in a position to challenge for a flag, would they have been moved on? Quote Selected
Re: Culture Reply #145 – September 20, 2015, 10:21:04 pm Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on September 20, 2015, 08:05:36 pmMick wouldnt move core influential players ie ratpackers on who could help win him a flag......different at Carlton where the stakes were not as high and his bad boys Robbo, Garlett, Waite etcwere moved on...Agree, MM stated clearly on several occasions that he was first and foremost concerned with winning games. OK he didn't actually achieve that too much of that with us, but that was his stated primary aim. If that was indeed the case, he would have just taken whatever action was necessary according to the circumstances he saw prevailing at the time, so we can't expect to find consistency - more likely expediency. Quote Selected
Re: Culture Reply #146 – September 20, 2015, 10:26:25 pm I recall an ex player saying mm run carlton like a private school for boys....yes sir no sir three bag full sir... Quote Selected