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Reply #1365 –
Anyone else worried that Trump has sidelined the State Department (the diplomatic arm of the administration) and is essentially allowing the military to call the shots, so to speak? Yes, General McMaster is a significant upgrade on General Flynn, but the military isn't necessarily the best preparation for dealing with thorny international conflicts. 

This is more of an issue as Trump doesn't seem to have any clue about how to solve international conflicts.  On the campaign trail, he thought the answer to the North Korean problem was easy.  Just tell the Chinese to pull him into line or the US would inflict damage on the Chinese economy.  After his meeting with his Chinese counterpart, he conceded that the Chinese don't have the control of the North Koreans that he had assumed and he backed away from threats to nominate the Chinese as currency manipulators. 

Now his childish strategy has failed, what does he do now?  Who does he turn to for advice?  Steve Bannon and his alt-right principles, his son-in-law (who has no foreign affairs experience), or the military? 

Meeting bluster with bluster won't work, according to those who have studied the North Koreans.  In fact, it may escalate the conflict. 

And what will the military want to do in Syria?  Will it want "boots on the ground"?  Are we seeing an escalation there?  As Trump has claimed he'd kill ISIS, will he go along with that?

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Reply #1366 –
Gareth Evans reckons Donald Trump is "the most ill-informed, under-prepared, ethically challenged and psychologically ill-equipped president in US history".

It didn't take rocket science to work that out.

What interests/concerns me is whether Trump now realises/acknowledges that he's not up to the job; I suspect not  :(
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

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Reply #1367 –
Quote from: DJC – on
Gareth Evans reckons Donald Trump is "the most ill-informed, under-prepared, ethically challenged and psychologically ill-equipped president in US history".

It didn't take rocket science to work that out.

What interests/concerns me is whether Trump now realises/acknowledges that he's not up to the job; I suspect not  :(

Trump has China on the run and Fat Boy Kim ready to push the button...if Trump wins that game of bluff he could be a real hero, or he could be sitting
on a pile of radioactive waste... ;)

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Reply #1368 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Trump has China on the run and Fat Boy Kim ready to push the button...if Trump wins that game of bluff he could be a real hero, or he could be sitting
on a pile of radioactive waste... ;)

Trump has changed his pre election stance completely in apparently confronting head on the Syrian and NK issues and thereby more  indirectly China and Russia. It shows that he has been brought into line by the hawkish elements such as the military/security establishment and is seeking to establish  credibility as a strongman and fixer. He is certainly proving to be completely self serving and willing to burn people e.g. Flynn and Bannon should the need arise. We live in dangerous times!
Reality always wins in the end.

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Reply #1369 –
Who would have thought a billionaire would side with the establishment? Don't forget he handed over control of the economy to a Goldman Sachs guy after saying he was going to go after Wall Street if he became President.

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Reply #1370 –
Quote from: Mav – on
Who would have thought a billionaire would side with the establishment? Don't forget he handed over control of the economy to a Goldman Sachs guy after saying he was going to go after Wall Street if he became President.

Our own country is headed up by an ex Goldman Sachs guy.
Reality always wins in the end.

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Reply #1371 –
Exactly.

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Reply #1372 –
What's the lowdown on the 457 visa ban, it seems Trump like.

The justification is that Victoria with it's low 457 visa uptake has experienced higher jobs growth than other states. Do the numbers stack up?

Why now? Are there any Korean / North Korean nationals running or owning local agribusinesses and bringing in skilled 457 visa workers?

Agree or disagree, the timing is curious.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #1373 –
Quote from: LP – on
What's the lowdown on the 457 visa ban, it seems Trump like.

The justification is that Victoria with it's low 457 visa uptake has experienced higher jobs growth than other states. Do the numbers stack up?

Why now? Are there any Korean / North Korean nationals running or owning local agribusinesses and bringing in skilled 457 visa workers?

Agree or disagree, the timing is curious.

Im buggered if I know, but according to a mate of mine, the 457 visa workers are working for minimal cash just to get their foot in the door, and 3/4 of the time have limited ability to do the job.  They then work for companies owned by a local ex pat, and are employed in greater numbers than the average skilled worker.  As a result, they are able to get more shoddy work done, more quickly and more cheaply than the locals who are sticking with skilled people who can do the job to minimise headaches, resulting in lesser throughput.

I for one take any person whinging who can afford to own their own business with a grain of salt, but it sounds like a justifiable reason to review it.

After all, whats the point of offering a 457 visa for unskilled migrants to abuse??
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

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Reply #1374 –
Quote from: Thryleon – on
After all, whats the point of offering a 457 visa for unskilled migrants to abuse??

I thought to get a 457 visa you had to be a skilled worker?

Wasn't one of the complaints Rinehart was using 457 visa workers to cut costs in highly skill employment areas like maintenance staff?

I watched a story in Statewide a few weeks back that described tomato pickers as skilled workers, that must take all of 5 minutes of training to get up to speed! So it all sounds like bunkum, so I have to ask why now?

I think the timing suggests the Feds are closing an avenue into the country in preparation for a conflict on the Korean Peninsula. Turnbull must have realised Australia could be crawling with VX2 terrorists, no more trains rides for a while I suggest! ;)

I realise it's a long bow, but this seems to have come out of the blue!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #1375 –
Quote from: LP – on
I thought to get a 457 visa you had to be a skilled worker?

Wasn't one of the complaints Rinehart was using 457 visa workers to cut costs in highly skill employment areas like maintenance staff?

I watched a story in Statewide a few weeks back that described tomato pickers as skilled workers, that must take all of 5 minutes of training to get up to speed! So it all sounds like bunkum, so I have to ask why now?

I think the timing suggests the Feds are closing an avenue into the country in preparation for a conflict on the Korean Peninsula. Turnbull must have realised Australia could be crawling with VX2 terrorists, no more trains rides for a while I suggest! ;)

I realise it's a long bow, but this seems to have come out of the blue!

To be eligible for a 457 visa, one had to have qualifications in a field where there was a shortage of qualified local workers.  Apart from the abuse of the system by employers looking for cheap labour, most of the allegedly qualified workers couldn't pass Australian first year apprentice standards.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

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Reply #1376 –
Quote from: DJC – on
To be eligible for a 457 visa, one had to have qualifications in a field where there was a shortage of qualified local workers.  Apart from the abuse of the system by employers looking for cheap labour, most of the allegedly qualified workers couldn't pass Australian first year apprentice standards.

So Turnbull is upgrading the skill requirements. Perhaps he plans to use the new visa recipients to replace the 350 researchers with about 3500 years of accumulated experience the Abbott kiboshed from CSIRO a few years ago! all those bad climatologists, socialist scientists, Lamarckists and Darwinists be gone!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #1377 –
The main job banning 457 visas is designed to protect is that of PM.   ;)
Reality always wins in the end.