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Reply #4545 –
Quote from: dodge – on
A couple of things that I think have generally been good:
 - RFK announced the banning of some food colourings (in line with Europe)
 - We will know what 'causes' autism by October (yeah, right) - tipping he's going to announce vaccinations.  Yep that'd be it.
 - The deportation of some people.  BUT why can't you just say we f***ed up on a couple and let them back in?  There's no loss of face doing that.
 - The implementation of A1 in schools - from the Education person, whose job it is to shut down the federal department (oh, dear)

But, how on earth could you possibly run any business that relies on imports to either manufacture into goods, or sell directly to the public.  The uncertainty kills any planning - how much will it cost?  Do I need to add 20% tariff, or 80%?  Can I source product that has a lower tariff?  Can I get a manufacturing plant to make my goods up and running to meet Christmas production requirements? (no), can I increase my local production by enough in time (unlikely)  Are there skilled people in US that can do this? (less and less).  China's big advantage now is that they have masses of skilled manufacturing jobs - tooling, fitting and turning, engineering and people to do them.  The US doesn't with the decline fo manufacturing. Dare say, like here.

Fruit & Veg - The USA imports heaps, much more cheaply than the local farmers can supply the market for.  So in price sensitive times, the US farmers struggle.  Tariffs will bring the price of the imported stuff up, making the gap between local and imported less obvious.  Good for the locals, as they may sell more and keep there businesses afloat - some may boom (and increase employment - often immigrants on farms).  But the grocery spend for everyone will be up - meaning that spending decreases will be on the cards.

Don has started to find out that the world doesn't need the US as much as he thinks - which is a bit of a shock to him.  Apparently the G7 group (Canada, USA, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, UK) has something like 30% of the world's GDP.  BRICS (Brazil, Russia, India, China, Sth Africa) is about 35% - do we need to start getting used to a new world?
wait till he finds out which demographic does most of the harvest work.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

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Reply #4546 –
If you want to see hypocrisy in full swing, note today that NewsMax Australia, a fairy new and reactive burgeoning right wing digital news source, which in it's start up phase has been using FacePlant as a platform, has been banned by FacePlant for sprouting unacceptable political content on it's platform! :o

This is the same FacePlant offering RedTrump's MAGA support crew an unequalled platform of influence.

The same FacePlant that thieves content from pretty much any and every news source royalty free!

Do you think FacePlant and it's billionaire buddies might see NewsMax as a growing threat to existing business models?

It seems you are free to be right wing as long as you don't compete!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #4547 –
Zelensky wont play ball by allowing Putin to keep Crimea or anything else they have stolen and Trump and crew have spat the dummy and want to pull out of any diplomatic solutions and leave Ukraine to suffer.
Disgraceful from the USA imo and probably a guide to our future defense plans where we need to consider who we can trust and rely on. Is AUKUS really worth it or would we be better stocking up on missiles and drones and finding some new defense partners?

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Reply #4548 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Zelensky wont play ball by allowing Putin to keep Crimea or anything else they have stolen and Trump and crew have spat the dummy and want to pull out of any diplomatic solutions and leave Ukraine to suffer.
Disgraceful from the USA imo and probably a guide to our future defense plans where we need to consider who we can trust and rely on. Is AUKUS really worth it or would we be better stocking up on missiles and drones and finding some new defense partners?
In 4 years there will be someone else at the helm in the US, hopefully, someone not as isolationist, not as stupid.
Live Long and Prosper!

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Reply #4549 –
.....but don't bet on it. ::)

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Reply #4550 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Zelensky wont play ball by allowing Putin to keep Crimea or anything else they have stolen and Trump and crew have spat the dummy and want to pull out of any diplomatic solutions and leave Ukraine to suffer.
Disgraceful from the USA imo and probably a guide to our future defense plans where we need to consider who we can trust and rely on. Is AUKUS really worth it or would we be better stocking up on missiles and drones and finding some new defense partners?

You can't really negotiate with a NPD and Zelenskyy has two to contend with.

I suspect that we haven't been able to rely on the US for defence aid for some time ... unless it's in their interest.  Fortunately, we have diversified our defence procurement but I suspect that we're not going to get much return for the $3Bn we shelled out to prop up the US shipbuilding industry.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

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Reply #4551 –
Quote from: DJC – on
You can't really negotiate with a NPD and Zelenskyy has two to contend with.
The trick is to not negotiate at all.

The best way to deal with such personalities is to simply say "I'll think about it" and never offer an answer, or simply stall the debate never being definitive in a response, always be unambiguously grey in your response, so that the NPD remains confused and unclear about the outcome of any discussion.

For example publicly Trump gets around this in the short term by blatantly lying about people coming to "negotiate with him", but in the background he'll be confused and full of doubt, he doesn't know what to do because he hasn't an answer the deal with, he becomes a victim of his own paranoia as NPDs are full of paranoia.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #4552 –
Then they can F off from Pine Gap and unlock the gate
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

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Reply #4553 –
If you want an example of how far some media outlets will go together discredit or boost Trump, look at the image below.

Trump caused some controversy by not rolling up in a black suit with a black tie as requested by the Vatican. If you look around the web you'll find versions of this image edited to make Trump's suit look either black or blue. I don't know why his opponents need to exaggerate the colour but some have, they could just show the real image, however that darker side of this (pun intended) are the media outlets covering up for him by making the suit and/or tie look black.

And no it's not an accident of lighting or printing.

"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #4554 –
Not only that - but who really cares.  It is not important that he wore a blue suit (as did William, and Biden a blue tie).  It's not like he wore shorts and a t shirt.

When people get tied up with this bs, the real issues get tucked away.

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Reply #4555 –
Quote from: dodge – on
Not only that - but who really cares.  It is not important that he wore a blue suit (as did William, and Biden a blue tie).  It's not like he wore shorts and a t shirt.

When people get tied up with this bs, the real issues get tucked away.



Its because so many are obsessed by the guy that his every word, every action and now even what he wears is analyzed to the enth degree.

If only our local politician's were grilled with the same passion.     

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Reply #4556 –
Quote from: shawny – on
Quote from: dodge – on
Not only that - but who really cares.  It is not important that he wore a blue suit (as did William, and Biden a blue tie).  It's not like he wore shorts and a t shirt.

When people get tied up with this bs, the real issues get tucked away.



Its because so many are obsessed by the guy that his every word, every action and now even what he wears is analyzed to the enth degree.

If only our local politician's were grilled with the same passion.     

Do you want to check in with Julia Gillard about that ?

I agree its a nothing burger but it also speaks for his lack of care and respect for well, anyone and everything thats not Donald Trump...
Let’s go BIG !

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Reply #4557 –
Quote from: northernblue – on
    
Do you want to check in with Julia Gillard about that ?

I agree its a nothing burger but it also speaks for his lack of care and respect for well, anyone and everything thats not Donald Trump...

It's a fair point.

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Reply #4558 –
Quote from: northernblue – on


I agree its a nothing burger but it also speaks for his lack of care and respect for well, anyone and everything thats not Donald Trump...
It's bizarre that his boosters take away the colour of the suit as the prime discussion point, and not what it represents.

@PaulP Julia Gillard indeed, so poorly treated by the media, systemic misogyny on full display!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #4559 –
Quote from: LP – on
It's bizarre that his boosters take away the colour of the suit as the prime discussion point, and not what it represents.

@PaulP Julia Gillard indeed, so poorly treated by the media, systemic misogyny on full display!

There's a massive difference between a serial offender like Trump being called out for all manner of factual and demonstrable indiscretions, and the vicious, full blooded, hate filled targeting of Julia Gillard. What a trash organization the Murdoch empire is. Decades of low brow "journalism" have indisputably made the world a worse place.