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Reply #1185 –
Quote from: Lods – on
I'm not sure individuals leaking information to the press whether it's coming from the White House or intelligence services isn't also a security risk and not ideal at all.

That needs to be fixed up quick smart.

Yep. If true you'd have to wonder about what other stuff gets fed out and what purpose/agenda it may be serving?
Reality always wins in the end.

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Reply #1186 –
@ Lods
Good post Lods.
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Reply #1187 –
It would be useful if Trump appointed some people who weren't mad as cut snakes.  Appointing team players with level heads is apparently what politicians do.  So Trump rounds up a bunch of freaks to show how different he is.  I'm sure Trump channeled Baldrick as he said to himself, "I have a cunning plan."  Then, he exacerbates the problem by fostering rivalries as if he's a producer on Survivor. 

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Reply #1188 –
Oh, the irony!  ;D

Milo Yiannopoulos is an alt-right troll and took over Brietbart News when Steve Bannon left to join Trump's campaign.  He managed to get himself banned from Twitter after leading racist, homophobic and anti-feminist trolling campaigns.  He created a storm when he tried to give a speech at Berkeley but the university banned him from doing so.  Trump then tweeted that this was an outrage, wondering what had happened to free speech - he even threatened to defund Berkeley!

Naturally, he became a hero to conservatives - so much so that CPAC (the Conservative Political Action Conference) announced he would be the keynote speaker at its upcoming conference: "We look forward to hearing Milo’s message,” and having Yiannopoulos “answer some tough questions ... at a time when political correctness is properly being discarded.” 

Free speech is always a good thing according to CPAC, but as the saying goes, sometimes you CAN have too much of a good thing. 

Video of Yiannopoulos surfaced in which he defended older men and women having consensual sex with 13 year old boys.  He said that they could often be tender coming of age moments for young boys who were seeking to understand themselves.  He thought that boys could even be predators who ultimately destroy the lives of female teachers who fall in love with them. HERE'S one of the videos.

And, hey presto, CPAC has withdrawn his invitation to CPAC.  You'd even think that they have done exactly what Berkeley did.  But no!  In the words of one tweeter:

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There's nothing about this that's amusing. This isn't about free speech. This is about basic decency. 

So racist and homophobic hate speech isn't an affront to basic decency, it's just free speech.


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Reply #1189 –
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GF7sAD0jf1o

Here's one bloke's view of the Donald - would be funny if it weren't so serious!  :o

PS. Bad language alert!
Reality always wins in the end.

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Reply #1190 –
All this hysteria from the left about Trump is why he got in. People are sick of it. It's fake news lol.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

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Reply #1191 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
All this hysteria from the left about Trump is why he got in. People are sick of it. It's fake news lol.

What about the hysteria from the right?

McCain's warning about Trump's attack on the free press isn't exactly fake news.
"Negative waves are not helpful. Try saying something righteous and hopeful instead." Oddball

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Reply #1192 –
Quote from: DJC – on
What about the hysteria from the right?

McCain's warning about Trump's attack on the free press isn't exactly fake news.

That's not so much hysteria as a "reasoned" warning.
It's now become a question of how to deal with Trump.

A comment like McCain's...just "matter of factly" stating "that's how Dictator's start" has much more impact than some of the more vocal and hysterical approaches.

A five minute bit from Alec Baldwin or John Oliver has more impact than a dozen rallies.

It's important that the opponents of Trump remain reasoned, controlled and disciplined.
Sending him up in a comedic fashion is also useful (He actually finds this really difficult to counter, and it does get to him)...anything else plays right into his hands and he'll bounce it right back at them.

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Reply #1193 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
All this hysteria from the left about Trump is why he got in. People are sick of it. It's fake news lol.

There is now no real left or right as we used to understand it, imo. Just slightly different flavours of the same thing, serving the same interests and manipulating the truth to suit their own ends. I don't really trust any of them much anymore - in fact the situation is cause for great concern.
Reality always wins in the end.

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Reply #1194 –
Quote from: Lods – on
That's not so much hysteria as a "reasoned" warning.uuy
It's now become a question of how to deal with Trump.

A comment like McCain's...just "matter of factly" stating "that's how Dictator's start" has much more impact than some of the more vocal and hysterical approaches.

A five minute bit from Alec Baldwin or John Oliver has more impact than a dozen rallies.

It's important that the opponents of Trump remain reasoned, controlled and disciplined.
Sending him up in a comedic fashion is also useful (He actually finds this really difficult to counter, and it does get to him)...anything else plays right into his hands and he'll bounce it right back at them.

That's my point, albeit clumsily made Lods.

Reasoned criticism is dismissed as hysteria or fake news but it's harder to do so when it comes from the right, the speaker of the UK parliament for example.
"Negative waves are not helpful. Try saying something righteous and hopeful instead." Oddball

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Reply #1195 –
Quote from: cookie2 – on
There is now no real left or right as we used to understand it, imo. Just slightly different flavours of the same thing, serving the same interests and manipulating the truth to suit their own ends. I don't really trust any of them much anymore - in fact the situation is cause for great concern.

That's the "fog of war" that's been created.
Extremism on both sides leaves you struggling to find the truth...and folks will make that judgement based on their own filtering systems.
 

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Reply #1196 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
All this hysteria from the left about Trump is why he got in. People are sick of it. It's fake news lol.
Yeah, right ...

I guess that would explain why Trump, the GOP and right-wing wingnuts spent the 8 years of Obama's presidency concocting "real fake news" about Obama being a secret Muslim who had a forged Hawaiian birth certificate who was trying to destroy America as well as bring in death panels through Obamacare  ::)

The FoxNews/Brietbart/infowars/TeaParty/Trump hysteria was a product merely of a black American Democrat President being in the White House and not to any supposed hysteria from the left. 

As far as I'm concerned, it's now fair game for the left to regard Trump as the"so-called President".  They're merely taking a leaf out of Trump's own playbook in disqualifying the sitting President and vilifying him for selling out the USA to foreign interests. And to suggest that Trump's supporters are now only reacting to the attitude of the left is beyond laughable.

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Reply #1197 –
Quote from: Mav – on
Yeah, right ...

I guess that would explain why Trump, the GOP and right-wing wingnuts spent the 8 years of Obama's presidency concocting "real fake news" about Obama being a secret Muslim who had a forged Hawaiian birth certificate who was trying to destroy America as well as bring in death panels through Obamacare  ::)

The FoxNews/Brietbart/infowars/TeaParty/Trump hysteria was a product merely of a black American Democrat President being in the White House and not to any supposed hysteria from the left. 

As far as I'm concerned, it's now fair game for the left to regard Trump as the"so-called President".  They're merely taking a leaf out of Trump's own playbook in disqualifying the sitting President and vilifying him for selling out the USA to foreign interests. And to suggest that Trump's supporters are now only reacting to the attitude of the left is beyond laughable.

Trumps own playbook??

The media are the only ones running these plays.  Create stories from nothing, report on bullcrap, and keep people looking at topics that quite simply are irrelevant to the job they are actually doing.

"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

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Reply #1198 –
Yeah big bad Trump wants to secure their borders, how dare he?

Easy for us to throw stones when we're surrounded by oceans and if any illegals come here we send them to prison on an offshore island. ;D
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

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Reply #1199 –
Quote from: Thryleon – on
Trumps own playbook??

The media are the only ones running these plays.  Create stories from nothing, report on bullcrap, and keep people looking at topics that quite simply are irrelevant to the job they are actually doing.

You have to look at and consider who actually owns the media.

As Mike Moore quipped before the election of Trump - "This is going to be the biggest FU in history!"
Reality always wins in the end.