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Reply #2880 –
Sadly, it occurred to me that he’d do this almost as soon as the insurrection happened (and I posted about it then). I think there’s every chance he will. If he wants to outrage everybody, this is a great way of doing it. An added benefit is that he could announce those pardons at the same time as pardons for his family, Bannon, Guiliani and a self-pardon and they won’t get as much attention. On the other hand, Trump only does what helps him and if he thinks his best interests are served, then he’ll leave them to twist in the wind. But if he does this, he better hope that the insurrectionists aren’t able to lag him in as a co-conspirator. We’ve already seen that when he hung Michael Cohen out to dry, Cohen turned on him despite his earlier boasts he would take a bullet for Trump. And the pathetic example set by the crying Nazi shows that supposedly hard as nails extremists can turn to jelly when the jail doors open up.

There’s still the prickly issue of the police officer’s murder which complicates the idea of issuing broad pardons. But maybe Trump would derive some malicious pleasure by forcing the GOP to square such pardons with its Blue Lives Matter boasts.

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Reply #2881 –
Can a Presidential Pardon be revoked? I.e. could Biden revoke a clearly indulgent/frivolous Presidential Pardon?
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Reply #2883 –
Senator Lankford, a Republican Senator from Oklahoma, had been intending to join Cruz and Hawley and 8 other Senators in calling for the decertification of Electoral College votes but changed his mind after the Capitol was invaded. He’s now apologised to Black constituents, saying he didn’t realise Trump’s attacks on the voting centred around cities with large Black populations. Wow, a Republican ackowledging right-wing racism. Wonder whether it’s freezing in Hell atm ...
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Reply #2885 –
Quote from: Baggers – on
Thank you, Pauly.
I fear a lot of this is going to result in some harsh prosecutions on both sides, perhaps filed in lead!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #2888 –
Holy mackerel, I just read that the Orange One is contemplating Martial Law... if his terrorist minions who've bought his rhetoric re the election being stolen and create enough 'combat' situations with police and the National Guard at the 50 state capitals, could he pull it off? I would put nothing past this creature, absolutely nothing.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

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Reply #2889 –
More delusional ravings from Aurangzeb!

The martial law process is somewhat vague but Congress has a role.  I think that should put the kybosh on any action the POTUS May attempt.

I reckon Pence would have to act to remove Aurangzeb from office if he tries anything.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

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Reply #2890 –
SPF, the group seems legit. Clearly, they want to make an bipartisan appeal on voting rights. Naturally, they had to go down the “both sides” path to do so but the truth is that voter suppression and gerrymandering are vital tools the GOP won’t easily surrender. They are motivated by White fright and concerns over demographic drift towards a non-White majority.

The problem for the GOP is that gerrymandering has created safe seats for them as if the Democratic Party didn’t exist. But the real electoral contests have become the GOP primaries. Fewer voters generally turn out for primaries, so the extremists can overpower the moderates. First, the Tea Party ran amok. Then Trump was able to intimidate moderate Republicans into pledging fealty to him or get primaried. Moderates like Jeff Flake, former Senator for Arizona, didn’t even bother trying to hold their seats as a result. Republicans in safe seats felt the need to become ever more extreme to avoid right-wing nut jobs outflanking them. But even so, 2 QAnon conspiracists were able to make it to Congress.

Cruz, Hawley, and Rubio have all swung hard right. Cruz and Hawley are both highly credentialled lawyers (top students from Ivy League Law Schools who clerked for Supreme Court Justices) who have little in common with Trump’s base but know they have to play to them to get where they want to go. Rubio was one of the “Gang of 8”, a bipartisan group of lawmakers who almost pushed through Immigration Reform under President Obama but he’s now a Trumper on this topic.

If voting reform killed off gerrymandering and ensured that the real contests were in duels between Republicans and Democrats, GOP primaries would be much more likely to advance candidates who could appeal to moderates. And when extremists did manage to push through extreme candidates, the Democrat challenger could put them to the sword in the Congressional elections.

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Reply #2891 –
If the US was in Europe, Trump, Cruz, Hawley etc. would be locked in a sanatorium in the Pyrenees, and spend their days playing bilboquet, and Sanders would be a boring, run of the mill centrist.

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Reply #2893 –
Trump will soon realise how transactional his political power is. While he’s been top dog, he has been surrounded by sycophants. When he loses all power in a day’s time, he’ll lose all of those sycophants in the political class.

Stupidly, he has organised a massive farewell at the Andrews Air Base on the morning of the Inauguration. The email invitations he sent out almost begged the recipients to bring 5 friends with them to fluff out the crowd. Even Scaramucci got an invitation despite the fact he has been a caustic critic of his since leaving the White House.

Mitch McConnell and other Republican politicians have already declined, preferring to attend the inauguration. Reportedly, the insurrection killed off any desire to pander to him. And Trump has handed the Senate Republicans the ability to kill off his remaining political influence.

Wouldn’t it be wonderful if his farewell falls flat? Will he cancel it rather than appear in front of an underwhelming crowd?

He reminds me of Bob Hawke. Remember when he secured a role as a presenter on 60 Minutes on the promise he’d be able to work his friendships with world leaders to obtain exclusive interviews? He was humiliated when he couldn’t get through to Maggie Thatcher and was left in the press gaggle calling out to her while she turned her back on him. He failed to understand that he left those friendships behind him when he retired from politics. As someone said, “If you want a friend in Washington, buy a dog”.

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Reply #2894 –
Quote from: Mav – on
Trump will soon realise how transactional his political power is. While he’s been top dog, he has been surrounded by sycophants. When he loses all power in a day’s time, he’ll lose all of those sycophants in the political class.

Stupidly, he has organised a massive farewell at the Andrews Air Base on the morning of the Inauguration. The email invitations he sent out almost begged the recipients to bring 5 friends with them to fluff out the crowd. Even Scaramucci got an invitation despite the fact he has been a caustic critic of his since leaving the White House.

Mitch McConnell and other Republican politicians have already declined, preferring to attend the inauguration. Reportedly, the insurrection killed off any desire to pander to him. And Trump has handed the Senate Republicans the ability to kill off his remaining political influence.

Wouldn’t it be wonderful if his farewell falls flat? Will he cancel it rather than appear in front of an underwhelming crowd?

He reminds me of Bob Hawke. Remember when he secured a role as a presenter on 60 Minutes on the promise he’d be able to work his friendships with world leaders to obtain exclusive interviews? He was humiliated when he couldn’t get through to Maggie Thatcher and was left in the press gaggle calling out to her while she turned her back on him. He failed to understand that he left those friendships behind him when he retired from politics. As someone said, “If you want a friend in Washington, buy a dog”.

Transactional you suggest?

The flaw with your argument is Trump has the people. Outside a dozen leftie centric major cities, in their hoardes.

And if any of you have any interest in the evidence of this massive fraud (most of you won't obviously)

hereistheevidence.com
Finals, then 4 in a row!