Re: The Hard Road To The Premiership Reply #15 – October 22, 2015, 09:44:27 pm Always hard to say. After the 2005 spoon we started rebuilding in 2006. By 2008 we were highly competitive, after being a rabble under Pagan in 2007. By 2009 playing finals. Dogs went from $hit to stars in a year with a change of coach and a list refresh. Port went from $hit to stars under Hinkley too in a year. So one never knows. Quote Selected
Re: The Hard Road To The Premiership Reply #16 – October 22, 2015, 09:47:49 pm Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on October 22, 2015, 09:21:17 pmMajor problem next year will be goalkickers.......McKay at pick 11 EB? Reads well, never seen him play. Thoughts on him anyone? Quote Selected
Re: The Hard Road To The Premiership Reply #17 – October 22, 2015, 09:48:15 pm Quote from: Jack Burton – on October 22, 2015, 08:58:25 pmI'm with you, and we surely will have a better run with injuries, which makes a big difference to a shallow listHaving a freakishly good/lucky year next year might hurt us in a way if we lose draft position and people start to over-rate where we're at... like we always do. We need a second year at the trade table where maximum draft picks is the focus.Trade out whoever we need to. Quote Selected
Re: The Hard Road To The Premiership Reply #18 – October 22, 2015, 09:53:35 pm Quote from: jeza – on October 22, 2015, 09:48:15 pmHaving a freakishly good/lucky year next year might hurt us in a way if we lose draft position and people start to over-rate where we're at... like we always do. We need a second year at the trade table where maximum draft picks is the focus.Trade out whoever we need to.Absolutely right Quote Selected
Re: The Hard Road To The Premiership Reply #19 – October 22, 2015, 09:56:16 pm Losing culture will hurt a young group. Win as many as we can Quote Selected
Re: The Hard Road To The Premiership Reply #20 – October 22, 2015, 09:56:22 pm Next year will be one for further list regeneration. We'll certainly want to become a lot more competitive and develop our new team culture but at the same time we won't want to climb too high up the ladder. Quote Selected
Re: The Hard Road To The Premiership Reply #21 – October 22, 2015, 09:56:34 pm Quote from: Raydan – on October 22, 2015, 09:47:49 pmMcKay at pick 11 EB? Reads well, never seen him play. Thoughts on him anyone?Harry McKay or Sam Weideman look great options as forwards and might be around at pick 11. I would be happy with either of these two. Quote Selected
Re: The Hard Road To The Premiership Reply #22 – October 22, 2015, 10:04:34 pm We need so many of the young guys to improve next year just to make it to competitive. If you're hoping for more than a couple of wins... brace yourself. Quote Selected
Re: The Hard Road To The Premiership Reply #23 – October 22, 2015, 10:06:50 pm Quote from: laj – on October 22, 2015, 09:44:27 pmAlways hard to say. After the 2005 spoon we started rebuilding in 2006. By 2008 we were highly competitive, after being a rabble under Pagan in 2007. By 2009 playing finals. Dogs went from $hit to stars in a year with a change of coach and a list refresh. Port went from $hit to stars under Hinkley too in a year. So one never knows.You know what killed us.In 2004 we went from 4 wins in 2003 to 10 wins in 2004That 2004 draft had Roughead, Franklin and Lewis in it.If we'd have been 15th or 16th with priority picks instead of 11th our history could have been completely different. Quote Selected
Re: The Hard Road To The Premiership Reply #24 – October 22, 2015, 10:17:51 pm Quote from: Lods – on October 22, 2015, 10:06:50 pmYou know what killed us.In 2004 we went from 4 wins in 2003 to 10 wins in 2004That 2004 draft had Roughead, Franklin and Lewis in it.If we'd have been 15th or 16th with priority picks instead of 11th our history could have been completely different.With our recruiting we'd have taken Tambling too before Buddy...lolWe used all our picks on mature age rejects in 2004, worked for a years, meaning, yes, we did well with bigger bodies for a year, but was short term, hence we missed out on 2004 bounty. Then after the spoon we had to properly rebuild moving out all the mature age rejects.Did get Murphy and Josh Kennedy in the 2005 draft though, which led to Judd. Quote Selected
Re: The Hard Road To The Premiership Reply #25 – October 22, 2015, 11:31:17 pm Been saying that for years Lods!How the hell did we win 10 games that year? Quote Selected
Re: The Hard Road To The Premiership Reply #26 – October 23, 2015, 03:26:10 am Quote from: Raydan – on October 22, 2015, 09:47:49 pmMcKay at pick 11 EB? Reads well, never seen him play. Thoughts on him anyone?Reads very well, and I'm very interested, a back up for Casboults role. Would need time to develop. Quote Selected
Re: The Hard Road To The Premiership Reply #27 – October 23, 2015, 02:04:36 pm Quote from: Raydan – on October 22, 2015, 09:47:49 pmMcKay at pick 11 EB? Reads well, never seen him play. Thoughts on him anyone?I like him, ruckman size KP player who kicks the ball really well, plays in front, takes a good mark and is no bunny on the ground either...comparison player for me is Ben Griffiths from Richmond althoughMckay is better on the ground and a left footer...Cons: can look slow, 2nd efforts.... Quote Selected
Re: The Hard Road To The Premiership Reply #28 – October 23, 2015, 02:17:42 pm Quote from: laj – on October 22, 2015, 09:44:27 pmAlways hard to say. After the 2005 spoon we started rebuilding in 2006. By 2008 we were highly competitive, after being a rabble under Pagan in 2007. By 2009 playing finals. Judd carried us during those years and it's no coincidence that our fall coincided when he started to decline and get injuries. Quote Selected
Re: The Hard Road To The Premiership Reply #29 – October 23, 2015, 03:03:59 pm Roughly the same time MM came on board. Quote Selected