Leaders; Bolton's view November 27, 2015, 12:10:09 am In discussing the steps to be taken to ensure Charlie Curnow doesn't stuff up, Brendon Bolton had this to say:Quote"The thing is, we have got some good leaders here ... Marc Murphy, Bryce Gibbs, Simmo (Kade Simpson); he's going to be able to learn from those boys as well. It is going to be ongoing education.Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-draft-2015-carlton-recruit-charlie-curnow-to-learn-from-his-blue-20151124-gl77c1.html#ixzz3sbNb1M9p I reckon Bolton is a good judge but I suspect some folk won't agree with him Quote Selected
Re: Leaders; Bolton's view Reply #1 – November 27, 2015, 09:28:12 am Quote from: DJC – on November 27, 2015, 12:10:09 amIn discussing the steps to be taken to ensure Charlie Curnow doesn't stuff up, Brendon Bolton had this to say:I reckon Bolton is a good judge but I suspect some folk won't agree with him I hope he's right DJC but some of our old boys were not obviously listening to what that group had to say. Quote Selected
Re: Leaders; Bolton's view Reply #2 – November 27, 2015, 09:37:14 am Not a bad approach. These guys have been told they're no good for a decade. Anyone coming in is going to believe that meaning they are cut off at the knees before they've even started. So a nice strong endorsement from the coach right off the bat, as soon as the new blokes are in the door.Let's see how positive BB stays through the year. Quote Selected
Re: Leaders; Bolton's view Reply #3 – November 27, 2015, 09:41:20 am Quote from: ItsOurTime – on November 27, 2015, 09:37:14 amLet's see how positive BB stays through the year.In that sentence hides the truth, the problems created by the past cannot just be resolved by changing the coach. If the club is serious it needs to stick fat, as it should have stuck fat back going as far back as the Brittain days. Quote Selected
Re: Leaders; Bolton's view Reply #4 – November 27, 2015, 10:27:24 am The dynamics of the playing group are a bit of a mystery to supporters.In the main you get the feeling that guys like Murphy Gibbs Jamison, even Judd in his day, aren't strong leaders.Then you look at the guys that have left the club and you wonder how much influence the leaders had in seeing them off.I've had the feeling for some time that the playing group hasn't been a cohesive unit but rather a group of little cliques.I think there's been a group or two of dedicated professional players and a group who haven't really invested in the cause.Is it poor leadership to not be able to keep the group together and on the straight and narrow?...probablyIs it poor leadership not to be able to turn troubled players around...or for some guys is that just a futile exercise and just not worth the effort.Could it be the case that those who haven't been totally committed to the cause have been isolated...I get the feeling that's what happened with Yarran. He couldn't wait to get out of the place. There would be reasons for that.With the turnover we start with a pretty clean slate.The fringe players that have been retained are in the main players who have shown a good attitude and effort.The players we've recruited seem to be of a similar stock.Curnow may have made an off-field mistake 'just prior to the draft but if his on-field efforts are anything like his brothers he'll be fine.Developing leaders is a long term strategy.While the current and recent crop may have been lacking in some areas it's something to build on.It's our next generation of leadership that looks to have a fair bit of potential. Quote Selected
Re: Leaders; Bolton's view Reply #5 – November 27, 2015, 04:10:27 pm Quote from: DJC – on November 27, 2015, 12:10:09 amIn discussing the steps to be taken to ensure Charlie Curnow doesn't stuff up, Brendon Bolton had this to say:I reckon Bolton is a good judge but I suspect some folk won't agree with him Wasnt Kade Simpson the player who Levi Casboult was tied to on that booze cruise....? Quote Selected
Re: Leaders; Bolton's view Reply #6 – November 27, 2015, 05:52:12 pm Thought that was Houlahan Quote Selected
Re: Leaders; Bolton's view Reply #7 – November 27, 2015, 06:37:08 pm Thought it was Betts... Quote Selected
Re: Leaders; Bolton's view Reply #8 – November 27, 2015, 06:37:34 pm Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on November 27, 2015, 04:10:27 pmWasnt Kade Simpson the player who Levi Casboult was tied to on that booze cruise....?Scotland Quote Selected
Re: Leaders; Bolton's view Reply #9 – November 27, 2015, 06:42:12 pm Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on November 27, 2015, 04:10:27 pmWasnt Kade Simpson the player who Levi Casboult was tied to on that booze cruise....?If you're right Simmo could speak from experience A lot of water has flowed under the bridge since then EB I suspect that the players have sat through many sessions on drug and alcohol consumption since then too - as they should. Quote Selected
Re: Leaders; Bolton's view Reply #10 – November 27, 2015, 07:33:01 pm Twas Fevola wasnt it? Quote Selected
Re: Leaders; Bolton's view Reply #11 – November 27, 2015, 07:56:56 pm It was a big night http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/captive-carlton-rooke-and-booze-cruise-shame/story-e6frf7jo-1225813309312QuoteHours after the players were kicked off the boat, Eddie Betts was arrested in the city for being drunk, while Mitch Robinson was believed to have hurt his shoulder in a scuffle.The club yesterday fined Betts $5000.Carlton has also slapped $5000 fines on Ryan Houlihan - who organised the boat trip - and Andrew Walker after they brawled with staff at Crown's Promenade Hotel on Sunday morning.Carlton players also made a drunken nuisance of themselves at The Fitz Cafe in Brunswick St, owned by former Carlton player Mil Hanna, before heading to swank Southbank nightclub Eve. Quote Selected
Re: Leaders; Bolton's view Reply #12 – November 27, 2015, 08:00:33 pm Haha wow how much worse does it seem in today's climate of political correctness. Quote Selected
Re: Leaders; Bolton's view Reply #13 – August 23, 2017, 10:12:41 pm Just watching the journey latest episode. Half way through Murphy addresses the team post Geelong loss. Jeeeeesus. How uninspiring can you get? Didn't help it followed Sticks / Parkin addressing the group. No charisma, natural leadership, gravitas, etc. Mumbled, chewed his words, looked uncomfortable, quiet as a church mouse. Why are we kidding ourselves that this is a leader that will take us somewhere? It's just wrong. So wrong. Leadership is so important... and this bloke.... bloooody he'll.Can we finally drop this bloke and move on? Drop him as captain, player, whatever. Just move on. Quote Selected
Re: Leaders; Bolton's view Reply #14 – August 23, 2017, 10:16:38 pm Maclure on 360 tonight said it's time for the succession.Said he thought Murphy would hand it over without to much angst.Docherty or Cripps were the suggestions. Quote Selected