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Reply #225 –
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If true then I'm surprised about Gibbs but not about Cripps.

I'd be surprised about both, especially given Gibbs support for Murphy a couple of weeks back and the clubs earlier statements about Cripps already having enough to worry about!
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Reply #226 –
I wouldn't be surprised if Gibbs gets the nod, as he is arguably our most important player right now all things considered, and he has been exceptional this off season apparently.

If Murphy is not captain this year, you have to start to think there is an ulterior motive, notwithstanding a Gibbs or other would be worthy. I am just thinking there's not much we can trade at the end of the year who is expendable but also valued by rival clubs. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying this is likely to happen, but the reality is even at 29 Murphy will command a decent pick in return and he won't be part of our next premiership assault. Gibbs is a year younger and has largely been injury free, so he could well be playing strong in 4-54 years whereas Murphy I am not sure has the body to last that long. But a team up the top would hand over a decent pick for Murphy IMO.

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Reply #227 –
@ Wallsy

Given your Murph comments could possibly come to pass, then Gibbs could well be next in line for the captaincy! If he gets it this year then it would be a strong indicator that we could be thinking about using Murph in a possible deal for a later model, possibly from a more northern lattitude?  ;)
Reality always wins in the end.

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Reply #230 –
Quote from: Wallsy – on
I wouldn't be surprised if Gibbs gets the nod, as he is arguably our most important player right now all things considered, and he has been exceptional this off season apparently.

If Murphy is not captain this year, you have to start to think there is an ulterior motive, notwithstanding a Gibbs or other would be worthy. I am just thinking there's not much we can trade at the end of the year who is expendable but also valued by rival clubs. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying this is likely to happen, but the reality is even at 29 Murphy will command a decent pick in return and he won't be part of our next premiership assault. Gibbs is a year younger and has largely been injury free, so he could well be playing strong in 4-54 years whereas Murphy I am not sure has the body to last that long. But a team up the top would hand over a decent pick for Murphy IMO.
No to Gibbs for mine, would be a step in the wrong direction if you ask me. Murphy was a bad choice at the time in my opinion but he has grown into the role and has improved over time. Reappoint him until Crippa and Weiters are ready (whenever that may be).
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Reply #231 –
Seems to me as though it's merely swapping like for like, and therefore a pointless exercise. Make them co-captains and be done with it.

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Reply #232 –
I can't see Spornton's mail holding up but, if it does, it will polarise supporters even more than Murphy's appointment did.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

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Reply #233 –
Gibbs as captain??......If I was Murphy I would be none too impressed and thinking about my future...elsewhere.....if it happens...

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Reply #234 –
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Gibbs as captain??......If I was Murphy I would be none too impressed and thinking about my future...elsewhere.....if it happens...

Unless Murphy has decided that he doesn't want to be skipper - but that's unlikely.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

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Reply #235 –
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Should be announced Monday morning.

I'd of thought the family day on Sunday would make more sense?!
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Reply #236 –
I have difficulty imagining the captaincy being taken away from Murph against his will, especially if he is to be replaced by Gibbs. If it is going to happen then I would have thought that it is at his own request or with his agreement as part of an arrangement that he is included in. We'll see soon enough.
Reality always wins in the end.

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Reply #237 –
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I'd of thought the family day on Sunday would make more sense?!

No mention of Gibbs in the blurb  ;)

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Everyone from Marc Murphy and Jacob Weitering, to Patrick Cripps and Kade Simpson will be there to sign autographs and take photos with the Carlton faithful.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!
 

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Reply #238 –
Quote from: cookie2 – on
I have difficulty imagining the captaincy being taken away from Murph against his will, especially if he is to be replaced by Gibbs. If it is going to happen then I would have thought that it is at his own request or with his agreement as part of an arrangement that he is included in. We'll see soon enough.

Unless he is being forced out, which you would have to say would be cruel and unlikely.

But stranger things have happened.

I only say it is possible because Bolts has flagged that he is going to be very objective about this. Now that could mean everything or nothing. It could mean he genuinely wants all players inc the current skipper to show him their leadership creds; it could be he intends to re-appoint Murphy skipper but is just putting on a show to get all players to stand up and show their leadership wares; or it could be the club have conspired to push Murphy out (and even more remote is Murph has already agreed to this, perhaps even initiated the notion of leaving Carlton at the end of 2016).

I think the last option is most unlikely.

But as I said stranger things have happened, and Murph has copped some criticism from some people for his leadership, and we do not appear to have much trade collateral for the end of the year, certainly nothing that we'd be happy to part with and which would land us a first round pick. 

The more I think about it, the more I think IF Harry and/or Charlie show some real growth quickly, we might consider trading Levi if a good pick is offered. Levi + our first pick for JOM anyone? Not saying I would do it, just throwing it out there.



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Reply #239 –
@ Wallsy

Some interesting theories there Wallsy. Personally I think we could well expect something of the unexpected in that the club has stated that it is "in a hurry" and so may be tempted to try and pull a rabbit or two out of the hat.

Speculation will certainly run wild if Murph is not re-appointed and makes way for someone else, especially Gibba!
Reality always wins in the end.