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Re: Rd 17 : Pre Game polite and refined discourse - Blues v Eagles

Reply #45 –
Carlton

B: Sam Docherty, Sam Rowe, Kade Simpson.
HB: Zach Tuohy, Lachie Plowman, Jacob Weitering.
C: Dennis Armfield, Patrick Cripps, Sam Kerridge.
HF: Jed Lamb, Matthew Wright, Jack Silvagni.
F: Liam Sumner, Simon White, Andrew Phillips.
Foll: Matthew Kreuzer, Bryce Gibbs, Ed Curnow.
Int: Kristian Jaksch, Nick Graham, Dylan Buckley, Charlie Curnow, Mark Whiley, Jason Tutt, Liam Jones

In: Kristian Jaksch, Nick Graham, Dylan Buckley, Charlie Curnow, Mark Whiley, Jason Tutt, Liam Jones.

Out: Andrejs Everitt (Omitted), Levi Casboult (Suspension), Andrew Walker (Knee), Dale Thomas (Calf)

We will miss Daisy. He has generally played well when we have. We will miss Casboult, but we need to see of Jaksch or Jones can do the job.
I don't like White as a key forward. he has a big heart but he isn't a key forward.
I would not play Charlie Curnow. He is not fit enough yet, even though he is the future. I am happy to see him in contention, but think he needs more time to find form. He is not going to get his confidence up being outgunned.
I hope Nick Graham plays: he needs to be in the midfield.
Walker was lucky to be injured: stopped him being dropped. But then, it might be this knee injury which is making him as ineffective lately as he has been. Whatever is the case, we don't want to see him back until he is fully fit and finding some form.
The same goes for Everitt. He needs to go back and show the VFL and the club that he wants to be part of our future. he has the talent. It is time he took the game between the teeth and did something about it, even though he does not have a great record at VFL level.
Sumner and Lamb were probably lucky that others were injured. They may have futures, but neither is getting the ball enough or doing enough with it when they get it. Maybe a week or two in the VFL would do them some good.

The Weagles normally kill us in the middle, with Nic Nat being the difference. They get first use and we are in trouble. Nic Nat is not there, but even Lycett beat our ruckmen when last we met. We really need to get our midfield up and going, or our defence will be under more pressure than it can handle.

West Coast Eagles

B: Brad Sheppard, Will Schofield, Thomas Barrass.
HB: Elliot Yeo, Jeremy McGovern, Shannon Hurn.
C: Chris Masten, Matt Priddis, Jamie Cripps.
HF: Mark Hutchings, Jack Darling, Mark LeCras.
F: Josh Hill, Josh J. Kennedy, Patrick McGinnity.
Foll: Scott Lycett, Andrew Gaff, Luke Shuey.
Int: Mitchell Brown, Jack Redden, Sharrod Wellingham, Eric Mackenzie, Lewis Jetta, Sam Butler, Jackson Nelson

Apart from Nic Nat, their list couldn't get a lot better. If we are to win (or even get close) we need to beat them in the middle, so starving their forwards and we need to stop turning the ball over so much. 11 goals from turnovers last week! Cut them out and we win easily!
Live Long and Prosper!

Re: Rd 17 : Pre Game polite and refined discourse - Blues v Eagles

Reply #46 –
Quote from: Baggers – on
Great to see the axe wielded.

At least the blokes who're coming in offer 'something' rather than Walker and Thomas limping around, Everitt wondering around and Levi being double and triple teamed whenever he goes for the aggot.

Personally I'd like to see Jaksch, Jones, Curnow and Buckley be the four to make it through. And even though Jaksch and Jones might not be in the side next year at least we'll have two talls up forward along with a resting ruckman to give the Weagles something to think about.
I, too, am glad. We had to make a statement and we did.
Live Long and Prosper!

Re: Rd 17 : Pre Game polite and refined discourse - Blues v Eagles

Reply #47 –
Quote from: Baggers – on
Great to see the axe wielded.

At least the blokes who're coming in offer 'something' rather than Walker and Thomas limping around, Everitt wondering around and Levi being double and triple teamed whenever he goes for the aggot.

Personally I'd like to see Jaksch, Jones, Curnow and Buckley be the four to make it through. And even though Jaksch and Jones might not be in the side next year at least we'll have two talls up forward along with a resting ruckman to give the Weagles something to think about.

The axe hasn't really been wielded Baggers - only one omission.  Like others, I suspect Lamb and Sumner were saved by injuries and lack of depth.

I will be surprised if Curnow makes the team without really being tested in the VFL - but what would I know, I'd have Gowers in the team before Jaksch and Buckley  ???
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

Re: Rd 17 : Pre Game polite and refined discourse - Blues v Eagles

Reply #48 –
Well we wanted to see what was left in the tank by several players looks like it will be on the weekend, but tough ask very under manned .

Re: Rd 17 : Pre Game polite and refined discourse - Blues v Eagles

Reply #49 –
Well, i got the outs right.

Doesn't look like Jamo is on the radar, so won't get the ins right. I'd be hoping to see Jaksch, Jones, Curnow and Buckley from that bunch.

Graham doesn't offer us anything we don't already have.
Whiley, ditto
Tutt offers us similar to buckley, but has had a more recent chance.
 

Re: Rd 17 : Pre Game polite and refined discourse - Blues v Eagles

Reply #50 –
Quote from: DJC – on
The axe hasn't really been wielded Baggers - only one omission.  Like others, I suspect Lamb and Sumner were saved by injuries and lack of depth.

I will be surprised if Curnow makes the team without really being tested in the VFL - but what would I know, I'd have Gowers in the team before Jaksch and Buckley  ???
I think Gowers stuffed up his chances with a poor one last week. Reading between the lines from the coach's review midweek, they were looking for a strong game and he didn't provided. Give us a strong game this weekend and he might just get a call-up.
Sumner was probably saved by Buckley slowing down after half time. had he been able to keep the umbers up in the 2nd half, he MIGHT have convinced enough that he was ready. As it is, he made it to an extended bench.
Live Long and Prosper!

Re: Rd 17 : Pre Game polite and refined discourse - Blues v Eagles

Reply #51 –
Quote from: townsendcalling – on
2 key position players and two runners...... Jones and Jaksch with Buckley and Graham.

Just my guess!!

My guess too.
No way Charlie could be match fit yet after the the problems he's had, and the couple of part games he's had.
Maybe Whiley instead of Buckley too ?????
I spent most of my money on Women and grog.
The rest I just wasted.

Re: Rd 17 : Pre Game polite and refined discourse - Blues v Eagles

Reply #52 –
Quote from: DJC – on
The axe hasn't really been wielded Baggers - only one omission.  Like others, I suspect Lamb and Sumner were saved by injuries and lack of depth.

I will be surprised if Curnow makes the team without really being tested in the VFL - but what would I know, I'd have Gowers in the team before Jaksch and Buckley  ???

Pretty sure that if we were heading into finals Walker and Thomas would play through their injuries... they've both been well below par and their omissions might have inj next to their names but I reckon there's an element of axe as well.

Like Capt CRASH mentioned Billy G blew opportunity with an ordinary game last Saturday, his urgency and intensity wasn't there - can't promote him on that. I liked Buckley's game last Saturday, broke lines, took on the game though disposal could have been better.

Lamb might have been a little lucky but his efforts have been really good. Reckon Sumner is going to be a gun once his body is right and he gets a couple of good pre seasons into his body.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: Rd 17 : Pre Game polite and refined discourse - Blues v Eagles

Reply #53 –
Quote from: Baggers – on
Pretty sure that if we were heading into finals Walker and Thomas would play through their injuries... they've both been well below par and their omissions might have inj next to their names but I reckon there's an element of axe as well.

Like Capt CRASH mentioned Billy G blew opportunity with an ordinary game last Saturday, his urgency and intensity wasn't there - can't promote him on that. I liked Buckley's game last Saturday, broke lines, took on the game though disposal could have been better.

Lamb might have been a little lucky but his efforts have been really good. Reckon Sumner is going to be a gun once his body is right and he gets a couple of good pre seasons into his body.

If Sumner's foot holds up, a full pre season will see this bloke become a top player imo.
Finals, then 4 in a row!

Re: Rd 17 : Pre Game polite and refined discourse - Blues v Eagles

Reply #54 –
Can anyone PLEASE advise me if and when Carlton is on Fox.  Being in Queensland at the moment it is impossible to find out and I am out of wi-fi range most of the time with only minutes left So ASAP PLEASE!!!!!

Re: Rd 17 : Pre Game polite and refined discourse - Blues v Eagles

Reply #55 –
Quote from: chalkybill – on
Can anyone PLEASE advise me if and when Carlton is on Fox.  Being in Queensland at the moment it is impossible to find out and I am out of wi-fi range most of the time with only minutes left So ASAP PLEASE!!!!!
Sundays Game v WC is on Fox at 1pm
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Re: Rd 17 : Pre Game polite and refined discourse - Blues v Eagles

Reply #56 –
Quote from: flyboy77 – on
If Sumner's foot holds up, a full pre season will see this bloke become a top player imo.

I'm curious about how a full pre-season will enable Sumner to get the ball.  Fitness doesn't seem to be an issue as he is running as hard in the last quarter as the first, but he just doesn't get the pill.  That puts more pressure on everyone else.

Lamb is much the same; a couple of cameos but generally doesn't do a lot.  Thirteen goals is a better return than Sumner but not nearly enough from a designated small forward.  I guess you could say that about all of our forwards, and midfielders for that matter  :(
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

Re: Rd 17 : Pre Game polite and refined discourse - Blues v Eagles

Reply #57 –
Quote from: chalkybill – on
Can anyone PLEASE advise me if and when Carlton is on Fox.  Being in Queensland at the moment it is impossible to find out and I am out of wi-fi range most of the time with only minutes left So ASAP PLEASE!!!!!

I think all AFL games arelive  on Foxtel, even those shown on Ch7. All you need is a Blues fixture list for times.
Reality always wins in the end.

Re: Rd 17 : Pre Game polite and refined discourse - Blues v Eagles

Reply #58 –
Quote from: DJC – on
I'm curious about how a full pre-season will enable Sumner to get the ball.  Fitness doesn't seem to be an issue as he is running as hard in the last quarter as the first, but he just doesn't get the pill.  That puts more pressure on everyone else.

Lamb is much the same; a couple of cameos but generally doesn't do a lot.  Thirteen goals is a better return than Sumner but not nearly enough from a designated small forward.  I guess you could say that about all of our forwards, and midfielders for that matter  :(

What I've noticed about Sumner in particular is that he has a quick, footy brain. If you watch early in the game against the Crows he effected an intercept that was elite/instinctual. When his body is right he'll get from contest to contest much quicker and really bolt away when he's got the ball. There was a couple of times recently when he tried to use his pace but couldn't get that little extra and opponents who shouldn't have been gaining on him, were.

I guess Lamb and Sumner arrived with not much senior footy under their belts so it'll take time. I'm extremely optimistic about Sumner. Lamb is more wait and see, his good is very good and I love his dash of mongrel and love of the physical contest. I'm far more concerned about the long term prospects of Kerridge.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: Rd 17 : Pre Game polite and refined discourse - Blues v Eagles

Reply #59 –
@Baggers

Agree about Kerridge. We are trying to use him in a role which really requires an elite playmaker and he is a long way off that atm.
Reality always wins in the end.