Talking Tactics - Our Forward Structure In 2017

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Reply #60 – February 19, 2017, 06:25:12 pm

Vickery goes at about 30 goals a season...bit better than I thought....

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Reply #61 – February 19, 2017, 06:32:42 pm

Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on February 19, 2017, 06:25:12 pm

Vickery goes at about 30 goals a season...bit better than I thought....

I've said before that Vickery will be someone who turns out to be a very important player for the hawks. Will be as good as Gunston if given the opportunity and healthy body.

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Reply #62 – February 19, 2017, 06:35:31 pm

Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on February 19, 2017, 06:25:12 pm

Vickery goes at about 30 goals a season...bit better than I thought....

Hawthorn will be pleased with his first up efforts; 10 disposals, 7 hitouts and 0 marks ...

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Reply #63 – February 19, 2017, 07:09:38 pm

A spud cooked a different way us still a spud.

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Reply #64 – February 19, 2017, 08:01:37 pm

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Reply #65 – February 19, 2017, 08:21:23 pm

Quote from: jeza – on February 19, 2017, 08:01:37 pm

Does everyone discount the possibility of Weitering playing forward?

With all the defensive cover I thought it more likely than not that he or potentially Marchbank would be in the forward line.

Backline:
Byrne/White | Rowe | Plow
Simmo | Marchbank | Doc
Also: A Silvagni/Sheehan

Forward line talls:
CCurnow | McKay | Cas | Weit | SOSOS

Smalls: Sumner | Lamb | Smedts | Palmer | Armfield | Pickett | Lebois | Wright | SPS

I think Weitering in that forward line adds a lot of class and makes it look pretty dangerous whilst not leaving the backline short handed.

Jeza I agree we'll have some other forward options. I posted this in 'predictions' thread.

We've heard a couple of the guys talk about training with more than one group. Sam Rowe was one. Personally I think we'll mix it up. Maybe see some master strokes by Bolts. What's it he says, get comfortable being uncomfortable. Until our future forward stocks develop, I think we'll improvise by creating less conventional options. Weitering, although a great defender, was reportedly known pre-draft to kick "everything from anywhere". I wouldn't be surprised to see him (or other tall/small combos), Rowe, or Marchbank rolling forward.

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Reply #66 – February 19, 2017, 10:13:33 pm

I happened to be at a friend's birthday party yesterday where I met an ex-AFL umpire who still knows a fair few AFL insiders. He was pretty adamant that Weitering will spend more than a bit of time playing forward this year. We'll see.

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Reply #67 – February 20, 2017, 11:55:43 am

Tall forward options will be there - how permanent they are (probably apart from Casboult early on) is anyone's guess. Much depends on the young bodies, injury/illness, horses for courses, etc.

Casboult
McKay
C.Curnow
J.Silvagni
Weitering
Plowman
Rowe
Marchbank
Kreuzer

They'll all 'roll' through the forward line as the key talls.

In the magoos - Gorringe, Jones, Jaksch, Kerr, Macreadie.

This year, again, we'll watch and see who does what and how they all go about their footy, both at AFL and VFL levels.

Side note - I'm looking forward to the progress of a couple of rookies - Glass-McCasker and Lebois.

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Reply #68 – February 20, 2017, 03:15:52 pm

Jones and Jaksch will have to do something remarkable this year to hold a spot....Levi too i guess....

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Reply #69 – February 20, 2017, 06:19:33 pm

Quote from: flyboy77 – on February 20, 2017, 03:15:52 pm

Jones and Jaksch will have to do something remarkable this year to hold a spot....Levi too i guess....

You look at the guys coming through and it's now or never for those 2. Jaksch may get a rookie spot somewhere else at best. Jones definitely done - if they don't produce something amazing this season. Hopefully they can pull their careers put of the fire!

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Reply #70 – February 23, 2017, 09:22:25 am

Footage of training shows Rowe and Casboult competing in ruck contests and Casboult involved in stoppage drills. It may be just to provide cover while Phillips is out but it's possible that Jim may get his wish and Casboult will play as key forward and back up ruckman.

My concerns about Casboult's knee injury preventing him from rucking appear to be without foundation.

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Reply #71 – February 23, 2017, 10:01:17 am

Quote from: DJC – on February 23, 2017, 09:22:25 am

Footage of training shows Rowe and Casboult competing in ruck contests and Casboult involved in stoppage drills. It may be just to provide cover while Phillips is out but it's possible that Jim may get his wish and Casboult will play as key forward and back up ruckman.

My concerns about Casboult's knee injury preventing him from rucking appear to be without foundation.

Footage I saw also shows Marchbank slotting a beautiful goal from tight against the fence on the wrong side for a right footer. Hmmmm.

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Reply #72 – February 23, 2017, 01:51:03 pm

Quote from: DJC – on February 23, 2017, 09:22:25 am

Footage of training shows Rowe and Casboult competing in ruck contests and Casboult involved in stoppage drills. It may be just to provide cover while Phillips is out but it's possible that Jim may get his wish and Casboult will play as key forward and back up ruckman.

My concerns about Casboult's knee injury preventing him from rucking appear to be without foundation.

With the ruck rule changes, Cas and Rowe may be very useful rucking around the ground perhaps using their strength. Dunno really!!

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Reply #73 – February 23, 2017, 03:42:48 pm

Quote from: kruddler – on February 19, 2017, 06:32:42 pm

I've said before that Vickery will be someone who turns out to be a very important player for the hawks. Will be as good as Gunston if given the opportunity and healthy body.

What were you smoking when you wrote that?

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Reply #74 – February 23, 2017, 04:19:23 pm

Quote from: LP – on February 23, 2017, 03:42:48 pm

What were you smoking when you wrote that?

I don't smoke or partake of other mind altering substances but I reckon there could be some truth in K's statement. Vickery's main problem has been feckwittery and the Hawks environment may fix that.