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Re: Be strong, say NO

Reply #15 –
Quote from: cookie2 – on
No problem with him giving money to the club. I just don't want to see him publicly associated  with CFC. A bad look IMO.

With the good doctor, one can't happen without the other unfortunately!!

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Reply #17 –
Quote from: cookie2 – on
Then be strong and say "NO!".  :)

unfortunately we cant afford it. dont see the issue when the club is not responsible for the media he receives. have the pies commercial operations suffered due to have joffa associated with them?

or are we so superior / jealous that we cant tolerate an old person with cash who hooks up with younger consenting adults? or is it his dress standards we cant tolerate. as the great r pratt showed unity beats division so mine is a big YES for the wealthy doctor.

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Reply #18 –
Quote from: cookie2 – on
Then be strong and say "NO!".  :)

It's unrealistic for us to be spurning the gift horse, we just need to be smart about it and prepare for when Caro attacks!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #19 –
All we need to do is spruik the message that supporters are always welcome at the Carlton Football Club, and his presence has no bearing on the operation of the coaches box.

Problem solved, try and attack that.  Even if you do it with an on field result, we will simply point to the opponent being better on the day and we know where we are at, and that we have a lot of work to do...

:D
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: Be strong, say NO

Reply #20 –
Quote from: LP – on
It's unrealistic for us to be spurning the gift horse, we just need to be smart about it and prepare for when Caro attacks!

We're not paranoid at all - it's just that everyone (especially Caro) is out to get us!  :D
Reality always wins in the end.

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Reply #21 –
who cares what he does in his private life (apart from the media )He supports carlton and if he wants to donate or get involved somehow why not . the doc not crim or been in jail we are so soft in this country let him support the blues.

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Reply #22 –
Quote from: mina1 – on
who cares what he does in his private life (apart from the media )He supports carlton and if he wants to donate or get involved somehow why not . the doc not crim or been in jail we are so soft in this country let him support the blues.

I don't think anyone is arguing against that?
Reality always wins in the end.

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Reply #23 –
The club has never spruiked Edelsten to the media, it is the media that give him the exposure!

Quote from: cookie2 – on
We're not paranoid at all - it's just that everyone (especially Caro) is out to get us!  :D

I'm not naive either, just in case you think the negative press is purely an accident, you should go back and read the litany of CheatsFC reporting by Robbo, or Caro's bent on the Dusty saga!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #24 –
Quote from: mina1 – on
the doc not crim or been in jail we are so soft in this country let him support the blues.

Maybe worth a fact check Mina!!

"Edelsten was a general practitioner, but was deregistered in New South Wales in 1988 and later in Victoria. In 1990, he was jailed for perverting the course of justice and soliciting Christopher Dale Flannery to assault a former patient."

Yeh, just our type.

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Reply #25 –
Quote from: townsendcalling – on
Maybe worth a fact check Mina!!

"Edelsten was a general practitioner, but was deregistered in New South Wales in 1988 and later in Victoria. In 1990, he was jailed for perverting the course of justice and soliciting Christopher Dale Flannery to assault a former patient."

Yeh, just our type.

im pretty sure has completed his sentence so i don't something that occurred 26 + years ago is a deal breaker. for me the deal breaker regarding his involvement is conviction on major heinous crimes. its true that he is a controversial character however all clubs will have people involved that would be described as being "colorful". happy to reconsider if its proven that the media associating him to carlton materially hurts our brand.

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Reply #26 –
Quote from: townsendcalling – on
Maybe worth a fact check Mina!!

"Edelsten was a general practitioner, but was deregistered in New South Wales in 1988 and later in Victoria. In 1990, he was jailed for perverting the course of justice and soliciting Christopher Dale Flannery to assault a former patient."

Yeh, just our type.

Together with his bankruptcy and outrageous partners, that's fairly compelling reasons to ensure that his association with the club is never publicised.  Convicted felons in the coach's box isn't a good look.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!
 

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Reply #27 –
Quote from: DJC – on
Together with his bankruptcy and outrageous partners, that's fairly compelling reasons to ensure that his association with the club is never publicised.  Convicted felons in the coach's box isn't a good look.

the club doesn't publicise so this is out of the clubs control. rather than have such narrow , conservative view of it consider the benefits of helping a member of the community help rehabilitate themselves. admire the fact that after his criminal indiscretion he has rebuilt his life. he is not alone in being bankrupt and re his partners well beauty is in the eye of the beholder - good on him for having a crack and some fun.

again i repeat the challenge show us some facts that his presence in the box has materially harmed the club?

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Reply #28 –
There are other AFL clubs that have prominent players associated with cocaine dealing, bikie gangs, stand-over tactics, illegal weapons, mother-hunting, right wing activists that all receive far less attention than we get from Edelsten!

It seems it won't take much effort by Carlton to turn the heat back on the accusers, why should we be worried?
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #29 –
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Disgraced businessman Geoffrey Edelsten says he fears for his life from irate Carlton supporters if he does not complete a payment he owes the football club.

Amid claims in his US court case that he has been repeatedly caught out misrepresenting his financial position and concealing assets from creditors, it has emerged Edelsten, a long-time Blues benefactor, owes the club $150,000 as part of a $1 million donation.

It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!