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Reply #195 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on

Really annoyed seeing Jack Steele run around for the Saints....really impressed me today and is exactly what we need to help Cripps....not sure what SOS was doing or thinking with regards Steele.
He would have been a high priority GWS player for me..
Mate me and you would have looked good running around with the Aints today against that opposition (or lack there of).
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Reply #196 –
Quote from: Professer E – on
Bolton mentioned our "poor discipline". I thought we were good considering the BS umpiring today, the bloke who pinged White when he got hit high should be horse whipped.
Was that "poor discipline ' he was talking about related to the coaches? :o
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Reply #197 –
Try this little exercise....go back to the opening post of the thread and have a look at the 29 man squad for this game,
Ask yourself how many of those players you think are "definite" selections for Round 1
I could only pick 8

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Reply #198 –
I'd be tempted to play MacCreadie on a wing, given his height it might represent a point of difference.  I don't like any of our other current options for the position. 
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

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Reply #199 –
Quote from: Lods – on
Try this little exercise....go back to the opening post of the thread and have a look at the 29 man squad for this game,
Ask yourself how many of those players you think are "definite" selections for Round 1
I could only pick 8

Curnow
Curnow
Army
Weeters
Marchbank
Rowe
Kerridge
Cripps

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Reply #201 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
Curnow
Curnow
Army
Weeters
Marchbank
Rowe
Kerridge
Cripps

I'd have Plowman in there, but then it does start to get interesting.

We obviously went into the game with no intention of winning. BB is putting pressure on the new blokes to see who stands up
in dire situations.
And I reckon there was a few who now know they will need to pull the finger out if they want an AFL future.

From now on nobody will be given a game unless they show something.
Same as last year when blokes like Smith, Jaksch, DVR etc weren't getting a senior gig because they were doing buggar all in the VFL.
No free games. Earn your spot or play VFL.
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Reply #202 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
Curnow
Curnow
Army
Weeters
Marchbank
Rowe
Kerridge
Cripps

Yep pretty much it...except I also had Plowman in and Armfield just out....but he should probably play so that gives us nine.

Quote from: shawny – on
Good luck selecting the other 13!

It's really only about 5-6 (injuries permitting)

Gibbs
Docherty
Murphy
Simpson
Casboult
Silvagni
Kreuzer
Wright

(Given Cripps only played 39% of yesterdays game you could just about drop him into the didn't play list :D)

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Reply #203 –
Quote from: Professer E – on
I'd be tempted to play MacCreadie on a wing, given his height it might represent a point of difference.  I don't like any of our other current options for the position.

I thought young Harrison played quite well and showed a lot of promise.  We may have made very good use of Pick 47  :)
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Reply #204 –
Any word on Charlie's shoulder?  That's my biggest fear from yesterday.

One thing that gets my goat is that this mob are touching us up every time.  I reckon some of it is average coaching as well.  Next time somebody needs to sit on Jack Stevens, fair dinkum, he gets 40 possessions every time he plays us.  If it happens again I'd be questioning Bolton's match day acumen.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

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Reply #205 –
From the reports on the NBs I'd not be surprised to find if he gets through another game that Sheehan in the mix. Another good game from Jaksch and he could go past some of our other tall forward options.

Le Bois could be a surprise in ahead of Pickett and Wright.

So in alphabetical order with 22 + Emergencies;


Automatics:
Casboult
Docherty
Gibbs
Kreuzer
Murphy
Silvagni
Simpson
Wright

JLT Game 2:
Armfield
Cripps
Curnow
Curnow
Cunningham
Graham
Kerridge
Marchbank
Palmer
Plowman
Rowe
Smedts
Thomas
Weitering

NBs Practice:
Jaksch
Le Bois ( If no then put Pickett in above.)
Sheehan

Did Not Play:
Gorringe

There is a glaring problem with this list, the ruck.

We have Kreuzer and ..............NADA!

But of course we have too many AFL ruckmen on our list, lets offload a few! ;)
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #206 –
Quote from: LP – on
But of course we have too many AFL ruckmen on our list, lets offload a few! ;)

Not sure where you keep getting this from. I can't think of anyone who said we have had too many ruckmen.

I've been saying we need to add more to the list.

As for offloading them...in recent history we've only 'offloaded' Warnock and Wood....both of which have actuaally retired.

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Reply #207 –
At one stage in the past(2008) our ruck list read like this;

Cloke, Kreuzer ......Hampson ........A. O'hAilpin
++ Ackland, S. O'hAilpin

Keep in mind we didn't need hybrid Ruck/KPFs, we had Fevola and Waite holding down KPs with support from Setanta and Ackland.

We added Jacobs to that list at the end of 2009 when Aisake left and we de-listed Ackland. The list still looked good and had some depth.

now it's,

Kreuzer..........Phillips......................?????
++ Casboult, Gorringe, Rowe, McKay(Just a baby)

It's pretty feeble, and has no depth.

Back in 2008, Kreuzer and Ackland were the equivalent of Phillips but we cannot say Casboult and Gorringe come even close to being useful 2nd or 3rd ruck options. Cloke held his own in 2008 as 1st Ruck, with Kreuzer as significant support!

Casboult and Gorringe won't support Kreuzer much at all in the absence of Phillips which leaves Rowe!

We haven't taken the ruck seriously for almost a decade now, but you won't win finals without a serious ruck division, even more so now the 3rd man up is kiboshed. Yet I still read posters claiming we have too many rucks.

We don't have too many rucks as you well know because Casboult and Gorring are miles away from being serious ruck options, they are basically below average KPFs that squeeze their way into the side by doubling as a very poor chop out for the 1st rucks.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #208 –
The one single incident that worried me the most was when Harry mcKay had the set shot for goal after the siren (end of 1st 1/4 i think). Approx 50m out and it fell 10m short. I wasn't confident he would kick the goal but was expecting it to land pretty close to the goal line.

He's a big boy who i was expecting to be able to kick better than than. Maybe he just didn't strike it cleanly but i would have been less concerned if he had shanked it.

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Reply #209 –
Quote from: deepbluesee – on
The one single incident that worried me the most was when Harry mcKay had the set shot for goal after the siren (end of 1st 1/4 i think). Approx 50m out and it fell 10m short. I wasn't confident he would kick the goal but was expecting it to land pretty close to the goal line.

He's a big boy who i was expecting to be able to kick better than than. Maybe he just didn't strike it cleanly but i would have been less concerned if he had shanked it.

With kids it can be fatigue setting in as their legs are just not use to the AFL running load, the lactic acid builds up very quickly and they lose power. That is bad enough for a débutante, but keep in mind this kid has lost a significant chunk of development because of his lower back problems.

We won't see his true worth for 2 or 3 years, he won't gain much more this year now that pre-season is over. For the rest of this year I'd hope he builds running capacity and game sense, but it'll be all muscle waste from here on in. Unless of course you play for CheatsFC!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"