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Re: JLT Game 2

Reply #255

Probably getting right off topic here. But add to your list our free agents, come year's end.

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Keeping together is progress.
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Re: JLT Game 2

Reply #256
Lets face it, Boeky was a huge mistake. Other recruiters and teams all literally laughed when we picked him. I think we wanted him to make it out of desperation and save face but it wont happen. If we took a punt on him with a pick in the 30s, 40s or 50s? It wouldnt have been so bad. But pick 19? The guy who the rising star and a premiership was picked at 46, sadly Boeky would tie his boot laces.

x2..Our own Crashlander said he was  only rookie material or a late pick at best...and the same Crash was all over Caleb Daniel.....our previous recruiters were possibly the worst in the history of the modern game...

Re: JLT Game 2

Reply #257
x2..Our own Crashlander said he was  only rookie material or a late pick at best...and the same Crash was all over Caleb Daniel.....our previous recruiters were possibly the worst in the history of the modern game...
EFA
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

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Reply #258
I spat it on this site when Boekhorst was recruited.  Has never looked liked he wanted it badly enough and has never adapted to the more physical nature of senior AFL footy as opposed to the WAFL.

Meanwhile the bloke many of us were screaming to recruit at 19 - Laverde - hasn't set the house on fire but he at least is a chance to make it.

Instead of Laverde we targeted his teammate, Viojo-Rainbow.  Another wipe out.  Reminds me of when we drafted Damian Lock and WCE took his teammate Micheal Braun with the next pick.  Who exactly were our recruiters watching at these U18 games?

Hindsight is wonderful, should have kept the pick and grabbed two metre Peter or Marchbank in the first place.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: JLT Game 2

Reply #259
I spat it on this site when Boekhorst was recruited.  Has never looked liked he wanted it badly enough and has never adapted to the more physical nature of senior AFL footy as opposed to the WAFL.

Meanwhile the bloke many of us were screaming to recruit at 19 - Laverde - hasn't set the house on fire but he at least is a chance to make it.

Instead of Laverde we targeted his teammate, Viojo-Rainbow.  Another wipe out.  Reminds me of when we drafted Damian Lock and WCE took his teammate Micheal Braun with the next pick.  Who exactly were our recruiters watching at these U18 games?

Hindsight is wonderful, should have kept the pick and grabbed two metre Peter or Marchbank in the first place.

Do you blame the blame or the system?

Our development structures/systems/programs have been massive duds for so long now it barely gets talked about.....
Finals, then 4 in a row!

 

Re: JLT Game 2

Reply #260
I spat it on this site when Boekhorst was recruited.  Has never looked liked he wanted it badly enough and has never adapted to the more physical nature of senior AFL footy as opposed to the WAFL.

Meanwhile the bloke many of us were screaming to recruit at 19 - Laverde - hasn't set the house on fire but he at least is a chance to make it.

Instead of Laverde we targeted his teammate, Viojo-Rainbow.  Another wipe out.  Reminds me of when we drafted Damian Lock and WCE took his teammate Micheal Braun with the next pick.  Who exactly were our recruiters watching at these U18 games?

Hindsight is wonderful, should have kept the pick and grabbed two metre Peter or Marchbank in the first place.

Think Laverde had three goals in the Bombers first JLT game.....Boekhorst was a gamble that went wrong, the physicality of the AFL has proven too much for him.....

Re: JLT Game 2

Reply #261
Think Laverde had three goals in the Bombers first JLT game.....Boekhorst was a gamble that went wrong, the physicality of the AFL has proven too much for him.....
You're right, will probably be top line VFL or WAFL footballer, just not up to the rigours of AFL.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: JLT Game 2

Reply #262
Hopefully we'll be in position to ditch most of the remaining dead wood this year. Boy it's been a nightmare!
Yeah, it'll be great to have a list free of deadwood... ????
Let’s go BIG !

Re: JLT Game 2

Reply #263
I spat it on this site when Boekhorst was recruited.  Has never looked liked he wanted it badly enough and has never adapted to the more physical nature of senior AFL footy as opposed to the WAFL.

Meanwhile the bloke many of us were screaming to recruit at 19 - Laverde - hasn't set the house on fire but he at least is a chance to make it.

Instead of Laverde we targeted his teammate, Viojo-Rainbow.  Another wipe out.  Reminds me of when we drafted Damian Lock and WCE took his teammate Micheal Braun with the next pick.  Who exactly were our recruiters watching at these U18 games?

Hindsight is wonderful, should have kept the pick and grabbed two metre Peter or Marchbank in the first place.

For every one of the 'why didn't we get player x' there is a 'cant believe we got player y at that pick!'

Cripps was taken at pick 13.

Besides Boyd at 1, and maybe Bont at 4...every other team will be kicking themselves for missing out on him.

Jack Silvagni was pick 50+

etc

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Reply #264
Cripps was a great selection, who picked him?
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

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Reply #265
Cripps was a great selection, who picked him?
A wise old man told me even a broken watch is right once a day.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: JLT Game 2

Reply #266
I know he's a contested beast, and I know he's one of our current pin up boys, but the deficiencies in his game still worry me a little. Specifically his kicking and his lack of pace. In a side with below average kicking, his issues don't stand out so much (also combined with the fact that he rarely Kicks). But in a team like the Hawks, it would really stand out.

If he was surrounded by players who were good kicks, I wouldn't worry so much.

And just to be clear, I'm happy he's one of us, and if I was doing team selection, I would pick him first or second every week.

Re: JLT Game 2

Reply #267
I know he's a contested beast, and I know he's one of our current pin up boys, but the deficiencies in his game still worry me a little. Specifically his kicking and his lack of pace. In a side with below average kicking, his issues don't stand out so much (also combined with the fact that he rarely Kicks). But in a team like the Hawks, it would really stand out.

If he was surrounded by players who were good kicks, I wouldn't worry so much.

And just to be clear, I'm happy he's one of us, and if I was doing team selection, I would pick him first or second every week.

He's very good at getting possession of the ball so I would too.
Reality always wins in the end.

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Reply #268
For every one of the 'why didn't we get player x' there is a 'cant believe we got player y at that pick!'

Cripps was taken at pick 13.

Besides Boyd at 1, and maybe Bont at 4...every other team will be kicking themselves for missing out on him.

Jack Silvagni was pick 50+

etc
If it was 50/50 I'd be rapped, but we are miles away from that.

The numbers are appalling- in 2014 we made 13 trades & picks. 2 years later 10 are gone and the other 3 (jones, jaksch and boek) are most likely gone at year end on exposed form. So that's a likely 0% from that cohort - that is almost statistically impossible over such a short timeframe and gives you a good understanding of why we still have years of pain ahead of us.

I agree we have had some luck, especially with the rookie draft, but it doesn't go near making up for our 10 or so years of rubbish recruiting. We have used our first pick on so many soft, lazy or mentally fragile footballers it's incredible when you go through the list.

Re: JLT Game 2

Reply #269
Holy smoke that's disastrous. Was that the Rodgers era?
Coming together is the beginning.
Keeping together is progress.
Working together is success.
Henry Ford.