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The Ashes - First Test @ Trent Bridge

England - Alastair Cook (captain), Joe Root, Jonathan Trott, Kevin Pietersen, Ian Bell, Jonny Bairstow, Matt Prior, Tim Bresnan, Stuart Broad, Graeme Swann, Steven Finn, James Anderson, Graham Onions.

Australia will not settle their XI until game day.

TV coverage is on GEM (CH9) starting at 7:30pm Wednesday.
 
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Reply #1 –
Root and Bairstow are weak links IMO......having Pietersen back and Swann fit is a bonus for England,
Glad to see Tremlett seems to have faded away from International cricket as well, he really worried our batsman with his height/bounce and I dont rate the equally tall Finn as highly. While Strauss was on the decline in previous series I think his steady work at the top of the order will be missed and I dont see Root as a specialist opener yet...I expect England to revert to Compton opening and Root at No 6 by about the 3rd test....thats after we lead them 1-0 :)

We can at least draw this series and win the return leg in Aus IMO.....

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Just hope we're competitive. I'll be hoping I get more from the cricket in 2013 than I have from the footy.
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We need to bowl well (I Know Captain Obvious) but that will essentially dictate the outcome of the series. Allow Cook, Pieterson and Trott quality time in the middle and we're cooked. Who will trouble them?

Siddle is a concern as he isn't quick enough outright and will have to bowl tight and he doesn't get much movement. Must bowl the fuller length. Starc could be a match winner or contribute well to a century before lunch - it just depends a bit like Mitchell Johnson and you never know what you're going to get. If he cannot control the swing (the big worry) he will be very ineffectual quickly.

Sayers is too inexperienced I feel but one for the future. Pattinson and Harris loom as the guys who can do the damage and perhaps the all rounder in Faulkner who is a handy pace (just off Siddles pace) and a left armer. Just on that if we do play left armers, England do have a handy spinner in their line up so that's something to keep in mind. I think if Swann doesn't come up fitness wise then you would definitely play one of Starc or Faulkner - what a pity we cannot find the spinners equivalent of James Faulkner. I hope Boof is working with Lyon on his batting.

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Quote from: Juddkreuzer – on
Just hope we're competitive. I'll be hoping I get more from the cricket in 2013 than I have from the footy.

Joe Root CAN play. Much more dangerous with him up the top than Compton.

However IF and its an IF we can get through Cook, Root and Trott -  Bell, KP and Bairstow are not in great form and are vulnerable IMO. Need to get Prior in early and under pressure.

It wont be won with us bowling (i think we have a really good attack), it will be if we can play the swinging ball. Our Batsmen are the key to this series.
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Reply #5 –
Quote from: shadesy – on
Quote from: Juddkreuzer – on
Just hope we're competitive. I'll be hoping I get more from the cricket in 2013 than I have from the footy.

Joe Root CAN play. Much more dangerous with him up the top than Compton.

However IF and its an IF we can get through Cook, Root and Trott -  Bell, KP and Bairstow are not in great form and are vulnerable IMO. Need to get Prior in early and under pressure.

It wont be won with us bowling (i think we have a really good attack), it will be if we can play the swinging ball. Our Batsmen are the key to this series.

You think the two attacks will cancel each other out? If so we've definitely improved.

For mine the number 3 for us is the one we don't seem to have an answer for at present. Bit like our KP problem - no obvious long term solution.

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Reply #6 –
Actually that last post got me thinking - I can't wait for Wednesday night now. Excellent the start of the Ashes series is just a couple of days away and I DON'T need Fox!

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Reply #7 –
The batsmen need to do two things, make runs and occupy the crease.

How many fcking times in the last 3 years have our batsmen gone out in less than 3 or 4 sessions.

What that means is the bowlers don't get a rest, and while they can bowl for two days if they have too, its much more difficult to bowl for 1.5 or 2 days then your batsmen are out quickly so you dont get full a day to recover before having to bowl again. This is a concept thee nuffies haven't grasped. .

That's why we can't have that fcking peanut pygmy at the top of the order with the blonde himbo at the other end. They think only of runs and averages, to them a slow half century is a waste. The skipper isn't much better

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Quote from: cimm1979 – on
The batsmen need to do two things, make runs and occupy the crease.

How many fcking times in the last 3 years have our batsmen gone out in less than 3 or 4 sessions.

What that means is the bowlers don't get a rest, and while they can bowl for two days if they have too, its much more difficult to bowl for 1.5 or 2 days then your batsmen are out quickly so you dont get full a day to recover before having to bowl again. This is a concept thee nuffies haven't grasped. .

That's why we can't have that fcking peanut pygmy at the top of the order with the blonde himbo at the other end. They think only of runs and averages, to them a slow half century is a waste. The skipper isn't much better

Cricket IQ's of under 12's

If we can get our top 3 doing something that would be a start. I think Smith may come into the middle order - not sold on Warner down there. Who bats 3?

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Reply #9 –
Quote from: shadesy – on
Quote from: Juddkreuzer – on
Just hope we're competitive. I'll be hoping I get more from the cricket in 2013 than I have from the footy.

Joe Root CAN play. Much more dangerous with him up the top than Compton.

However IF and its an IF we can get through Cook, Root and Trott -  Bell, KP and Bairstow are not in great form and are vulnerable IMO. Need to get Prior in early and under pressure.

It wont be won with us bowling (i think we have a really good attack), it will be if we can play the swinging ball. Our Batsmen are the key to this series.

I actually think their tail is very dangerous with Bresnan, Swann and Broad,  we can probably  run through their top order and end up with the tail getting 100 runs and that will win them games.
Root is umproven IMO...made runs vs NZ batting at No 6 but hasnt opened in tests before and I want see him vs Pattinson and crew before I acknowledge he can play as an opener.
I think the form of Peitersen will have a lot to do on the bearing of this series.....big game player and can win tests.

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Reply #10 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Quote from: shadesy – on
Quote from: Juddkreuzer – on
Just hope we're competitive. I'll be hoping I get more from the cricket in 2013 than I have from the footy.

Joe Root CAN play. Much more dangerous with him up the top than Compton.

However IF and its an IF we can get through Cook, Root and Trott -  Bell, KP and Bairstow are not in great form and are vulnerable IMO. Need to get Prior in early and under pressure.

It wont be won with us bowling (i think we have a really good attack), it will be if we can play the swinging ball. Our Batsmen are the key to this series.

I actually think their tail is very dangerous with Bresnan, Swann and Broad,  we can probably  run through their top order and end up with the tail getting 100 runs and that will win them games.
Root is umproven IMO...made runs vs NZ batting at No 6 but hasnt opened in tests before and I want see him vs Pattinson and crew before I acknowledge he can play as an opener.
I think the form of Peitersen will have a lot to do on the bearing of this series.....big game player and can win tests.

Peitersen's danger is he can take the game away in a session and go on and get a big one. He is a big game player as well.

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Interesting article on Cricinfo which is well worth a read:

A rough venue for England's batsmen - http://www.espncricinfo.com/the-ashes-2013/content/story/649059.html

From the article:

"No Test has been drawn at Trent Bridge for the last ten years. Since the beginning of 2003, only three other venues have hosted six or more Tests without a single draw - MCG, Wanderers (ten all-result Tests) and Sabina Park (nine all-result Tests)."

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Reply #12 –
Something I like to do before a Test Match is pop onto Google and have a look about at the ground surrounds.

Pop into Google Maps: Trent Bridge Cricket Ground, West Bridgford, United Kingdom.

Lovely old ground and surrounds. One day when I am rich and infamous I will tour these places.

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Possible line up;

Shane Watson
Chris Rogers
Phil Hughes
Michael Clarke
David Warner
Steve Smith
Brad Haddin
Mitchell Starc
Peter Siddle
James Pattinson
Nathan Lyon

12th Man: Jackson Bird

Siddle under pressure to perform or else Harris or Bird will take his place.

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Reply #14 –
Quote from: Lappinlappystick – on
Possible line up;

Shane Watson
Chris Rogers
Phil Hughes
Michael Clarke
David Warner
Steve Smith
Brad Haddin
Mitchell Starc
Peter Siddle
James Pattinson
Nathan Lyon

12th Man: Jackson Bird

Siddle under pressure to perform or else Harris or Bird will take his place.

Bird has done well there thus far but I think Siddle will keep his spot. Runs are gold at this venue so playing the extra bat makes sense. They may be tempted to go with Faulkner as who gives them another left armer who's been accurate but can also bat. Warner hasn't played any lead up games and wasn't in good form to begin with.