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Re: 2017 Round 4 : Post Game thread - Carlton V Gold Coast

Reply #105 –
Quote from: Lods – on
All the other things go out the window if the player turns out to be a 'gem'.
At the end of the day we really only care about how good they are.

No doubt that's at the top of tree. The other things just made a bad situation worse.

Re: 2017 Round 4 : Post Game thread - Carlton V Gold Coast

Reply #106 –
I have no animosity towards him at all.
In fact I'd love to see him prove the knockers wrong.
I thought he was poor yesterday.
I was quite surprised by the stats which showed he had a good number of possessions at a "not terrible" disposal rate.
But as we all know stats only prove half the story.
It wouldn't surprise to see him dropped next week.

But leading up to that....
Why is he getting selected each week?
It must mean that the selectors are seeing things we're not.
it must mean he's doing the job he was sent out to do.
If you don't believe that, then the alternative must be that the selectors are a bunch of dills.
If you believe it's because he's on such a high wage we have to play him then we have to believe the club is run by dills.
I don't believe either of those things.

Re: 2017 Round 4 : Post Game thread - Carlton V Gold Coast

Reply #107 –
Quote from: cimm1979 – on
That
Williamson
[/b] kid is a freak.

When he was drafted I thought he looked Afl ready. Like SPP. Although it's much about physical development. It may give a mental edge too, having confidence you can match the physically. Anyways, he has looked confident and competitive. A super start to what I hope will be a long career in Navy Blue.
Coming together is the beginning.
Keeping together is progress.
Working together is success.
Henry Ford.

Re: 2017 Round 4 : Post Game thread - Carlton V Gold Coast

Reply #108 –
I'm liking the fact it's looked like we have actually nailed a couple of drafts.

Re: 2017 Round 4 : Post Game thread - Carlton V Gold Coast

Reply #109 –
Quote from: laj – on
I'm liking the fact it's looked like we have actually nailed a couple of drafts.

Yes. Not because of size, surname, cameo performances, athletes, or some "expert's" opinion. Because they are footballer's who know what to do when.  They have emerging "how to" skill sets to get the job done.
Coming together is the beginning.
Keeping together is progress.
Working together is success.
Henry Ford.

Re: 2017 Round 4 : Post Game thread - Carlton V Gold Coast

Reply #110 –
Quote from: laj – on
I'm liking the fact it's looked like we have actually nailed a couple of drafts.

Not to mention some very favourable trades; Wright, Plowman, Marchbank and Pickett are showing great promise :)
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!
 

Re: 2017 Round 4 : Post Game thread - Carlton V Gold Coast

Reply #111 –
Why wouldn't Daisy retire?

Does he believe he still has something to offer or is it more that he won't get his full years payout if he does?

Players are regularly crucified on here for not delivering what we expect they should at least be capable of but somehow now Daisy is being treated unfairly? 

Geez I know Thornton, Houla, Warnock, Lucas, to name a few off the top of my head, have also been treated to the exasperated loud sighs and frustrations of the CFC supporters yet now we're seriously talking that the young guys are seeing how softly softly treated an injured not up to it guy that has already earnt $3m from our club for a handful of good games and wonder if Its all part of our clubs plan to reassure them that when they're not up to it anymore we will just let them keep playing as long as they talk a little during the game - crap I hope that's not the case!

Re: 2017 Round 4 : Post Game thread - Carlton V Gold Coast

Reply #112 –
Quote from: cimm1979 – on
How many games do you think they'll win this year EB?

This time last year people were talking about top 4 and they appear to be back to that level.

I think, at their best, they are just about as good as anyone but they're as flaky as crap.

PS, Abblett is a parasite on and off the field. King of the cheapie and completely selfish.

Hey Cimm..nice to see you back on the forum and hope you are tracking well both personally and health wise.
GC..how many games?....not enough to make the eight IMO, they are good to watch and play a nice brand with run and flair and like I said are probably
the quickest team I have seen but they lack a bit of substance IMO and I dont think they have the leaders in their lineup to be a force at this stage.

re: Ablett...wants Geelong next season IMO and is going through the motions at GC but smart enough to keep his stats up to avoid criticism....did get a lot of cheapies early
but he is a good decision maker and is playing safe with the ball...the old attacking Ablett who played like Dangerfield does now isnt on show anymore and its safety first until he is back in blue and white hoops when you might see some of the old Ablett.
I agree he can be selfish and isnt a great leader....

Re: 2017 Round 4 : Post Game thread - Carlton V Gold Coast

Reply #113 –
Quote from: LoveNavy – on
Yes. Not because of size, surname, cameo performances, athletes, or some "expert's" opinion. Because they are footballer's who know what to do when.  They have emerging "how to" skill sets to get the job done.

Maybe we finally have a recruiting manager who knows what he is doing.

Re: 2017 Round 4 : Post Game thread - Carlton V Gold Coast

Reply #114 –
Quote from: bratblue – on
Makes you wonder how he lasted so long in the draft.

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Carlton has selected North Ballarat midfielder Tom Williamson with pick No.61 in the 2016 national draft.

Williamson showed off his excellent endurance at the AFL national combine, finishing first in the agility test and second in the 3km time trial. He prides himself on his fitness, finishing top 10 in another five tests, including the beep.

Williamson is a skilful medium defender/midfielder who can break games open with his speed. He shows good awareness and footy smarts and is a prolific ball-winner.

190cm, 80kg.

Great size noting the kgs will come with time....excellent evasive skills, lovely left foot and can kick on the right too....
Finals, then 4 in a row!

Re: 2017 Round 4 : Post Game thread - Carlton V Gold Coast

Reply #115 –
Quote from: flyboy77 – on
190cm, 80kg.

Great size noting the kgs will come with time....excellent evasive skills, lovely left foot and can kick on the right too....

Yes, very impressed with him, if he turns up most weeks with this type of intent he will be a real handful soon.

Re: 2017 Round 4 : Post Game thread - Carlton V Gold Coast

Reply #116 –
Re: Tom Williamson

I wonder if he was recruited to add some (desperately needed) talent in the middle. If he's got some defensive craft, attacking mindset, good size/strength, speed, agility, endurance, and foot skills.... Perhaps he'll be our homegrown mid talent. Certainly sounds like he's got all the makings.

Here's hoping the development side of things is solid. We could be looking at a buddy for Crippa before we know it ^-^
Wouldn't it be something to replicate Crippa's development!!!

Fwiw Williamson was my 2016 draft smokey. Smedts my trade smokey.
Plenty to get excited about bluebaggers. Enjoy the journey :)
Coming together is the beginning.
Keeping together is progress.
Working together is success.
Henry Ford.

Re: 2017 Round 4 : Post Game thread - Carlton V Gold Coast

Reply #117 –
Quote from: RiverRat – on
This might have been mentioned before but last night (maybe it was the haircut) I couldn't help thinking that Charlie Curnow bore a strong resemblance to the young Kouta - maybe it was wishful thinking after watching Kouta highlights on Open Mike and before the game..

You obviously haven't been spending a whole lot of time on the boards of late.

I dubbed Charlie C 'Curnofides' last year based on similar observations, mannerisms and glimpses of ability out on the footy field.

Re: 2017 Round 4 : Post Game thread - Carlton V Gold Coast

Reply #118 –
Quote from: flyboy77 – on
190cm, 80kg.

Great size noting the kgs will come with time....excellent evasive skills, lovely left foot and can kick on the right too....

Yep...exactly what we need in all areas, he looks bigger than 80kg on the ground, also has some acceleration
away from traffic so he can extract himself from trouble.
Like the way he holds his arms high when tackled like Pendlebury so he always seems to get rid of the ball in time..

Re: 2017 Round 4 : Post Game thread - Carlton V Gold Coast

Reply #119 –
Though the result was disappointing, it was clear from the game that Carlton have nailed the past two drafts, despite what Mathew Lloyd says.
The fact there were two or three bewildering umpire decisions which cost us goals, two skill errors that cost us goals and we missed five or six shots on goal that we should have kicked, maybe Sav should work on all our players goal kicking.
We need to keep playing the kids, we need to bring in Cunningham, McKay & Polson in the near future, and we need to nail next years draft as well.