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In all honest, and I know they've had their injuries, guys like Gorringe, Lamb and Sumner would want to show something soon!

Good to see Lebois in. Excited by what he can bring.

Where's Harry McKay? Rested?

Indeed. There is expected to be a 3rd clesn-out at the end of the season, so under-performers must show enough to remain. We simply don't have the guys that need to be broomed out that we did when Bolton arrived. So now, it is perform or perish.

Exactly crash. Really all about performance now.

Others in the same boat include - Armfield, Boekhorst, Jaksch, Jones, Kerridge, Graham, Buckley and rookies Gallucci and Sheehan. Talent is there, but another piece might be their bodies. If they can't get on the park each week, and perform, then that will also be taken into account IMO.

FWIW, I'm really liking Liam Jones form and output at the moment. Let's see how he goes for the remainder of the year, indeed the others listed above also.

Like you, I have been impressed with Jones. In 2015 I could not possibly considered writing that. He was an embarassment. Not now. He is very unlucky not to be n the side. In fact, last year or the year before, had he played like he has this season he would be among the 1st picked for the seniors.

I think this will be Armfield's last season. He appears to be headed towards coaching. I think he would be a good one.
Sheahan: if he can actually get through a few VFL games he'll be given a senior game. His kicking from defence and smarts will be tested at senior level.

Armfield will not wear a 1st 18 jumper again.  Just a harsh reality....has been superseded by too many others. But he got the best out of his ability.  McKay, having seen a few seconds games, is the 'slowly, slowly' player.  He desperately needs another full preseason to perform the role we require.  Give him a couple of cameos in 2017, but nothing more than that.  Dont do a Darcy Moore on the kid if we don't have to.  Build body and confidence!!

Armfield will not wear a 1st 18 jumper again.  Just a harsh reality....has been superseded by too many others. But he got the best out of his ability.  McKay, having seen a few seconds games, is the 'slowly, slowly' player.  He desperately needs another full preseason to perform the role we require.  Give him a couple of cameos in 2017, but nothing more than that.  Dont do a Darcy Moore on the kid if we don't have to.  Build body and confidence!!

Wouldn't give up on Armfield for 2017 yet, but the writing is on the wall longer term.

Agree about McKay, slowly slowly is my preferred option, Carlton have cooked too many talls through desperation and over-exuberance. For this reason I'd love to see Jones and Jaksch getting some last chance options, they are more than useful to bridge a gap while McKay gets his AFL body.

I think hes done LP.

He might get a Andrew Walker match later in the year, but his body is succumbing to injury and stick a fork in him at AFL level.

We need to acid test a few players in the second half of the season, and I wouldn't want to do it with more than one or two per match meaning he is effectively finished, and like townsendcalling has mentioned, his next match is likely to be his last one for the Navy Blue seniors, which is a pity but its where we are at as a football club.

I like Army.  He is a good clubman, loves the place, and is generally a positive influence at our footy club, and I would absolutely love the idea of the Northern Blues having Armfield run around for them next season, whilst we mentor him into a coaching role post AFL.

I think when the club thinks he's done he'll pull the pin, reports had him pulling the pin after last season but allegedly the club asked him to go around one more time to his surprise.

Having said that, I think there is room for one of the likes of Daisy and Armfield, and sentiment or bias should not come into the decision making process. At the moment you'd say Daisy has him covered if Daisy can stay fit!

I think a bigger worry for the club is why we aren't confident in saying that the likes of Lamb and Sumner have gone past him! Lamb was excluding the 2010 GWS / GC bonanza effectively a 1st Rnd draft pick!