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Re: Rd 18: Post Game Pandemonium: Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #60 –
Quote from: Lods – on
Educating (Experimenting) rather than worrying about results?

The upside is a solid draft pick and a bit of experience for the youngsters.
The downside is a rather dismal end to the season for supporters, apart from minor glimpses of 'green shoots.'
Hopefully they get it right.
It's high risk stuff with a number of variables and no guarantees.

That's true, but I don't think we weren't worrying about the result.  However, winning the game may not have been the ultimate prize if it meant playing Harry for another quarter or playing some of our ageing, struggling blokes at the expense of our young blokes.

It is a high risk approach but, if it comes off, it will have high rewards.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

Re: Rd 18: Post Game Pandemonium: Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #61 –
In 2014 when the knives started to come out for Mick in his second year we had 7 1/2 wins and 5 losses under 2 goals. This year is looking very similar to that and we're starting to see a drop off in form of the senior players who might be starting to lose faith in the game plan which is pretty much identical to the one we played back then.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: Rd 18: Post Game Pandemonium: Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #62 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
This year is looking very similar to that and we're starting to see a drop off in form of the senior players who might be starting to lose faith in the game plan which is pretty much identical to the one we played back then.

Not sure Murph or Krooz looked like that, Gibbs was tagged out of it and Simmo had a shocker....and we played a s&$tload of kids.

Re: Rd 18: Post Game Pandemonium: Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #63 –
The Captain had 17 odd kicks, I reckon the longest went 19m.
Finals, then 4 in a row!

Re: Rd 18: Post Game Pandemonium: Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #64 –
Quote from: flyboy77 – on
The Captain had 17 odd kicks, I reckon the longest went 19m.

Agree. Stats can be misleading. Murphy just cant impact the contest like he used to.

When the game was slipping away from mid first quarter and thru to half time Murphy gave nothing. Gibbs, Simmo and Thomas were even worse during the same period. And that was the game right there.

Our leaders except Kruezer were woeful yesterday.

 

Re: Rd 18: Post Game Pandemonium: Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #65 –
Quote from: shawny – on
Agree. Stats can be misleading. Murphy just cant impact the contest like he used to.

When the game was slipping away from mid first quarter and thru to half time Murphy gave nothing. Gibbs, Simmo and Thomas were even worse during the same period. And that was the game right there.

Our leaders except Kruezer were woeful yesterday.
Why tho? Didn't think Doch was great either.

What's going on with Murphy? He's had a month of stink...

Re: Rd 18: Post Game Pandemonium: Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #66 –
Murphy is only going to get worse with the sleepless nights in the next couple of years. Trade him and Gibbs now and get something for them.

2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: Rd 18: Post Game Pandemonium: Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #67 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
Murphy is only going to get worse with the sleepless nights in the next couple of years. Trade him and Gibbs now and get something for them.
He looks so unsure when he gets it - maybe it's just having a team of new faces, they haven't learnt each other's styles yet?

Re: Rd 18: Post Game Pandemonium: Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #68 –
Quote from: Micky0 – on
Why tho? Didn't think Doch was great either.

What's going on with Murphy? He's had a month of stink...

Hasn't been the same since that infamous Saints game..... now he's having baby, focus elsewhere?

Looking at Daisy, I'd prefer to chop him. Could an established mid/HFF in a State League offer any less?

Simmo too, on yesterday's effort must be questionable (given Willo, Macreadie, Byrne etc etc) - some really bad disposal, but not alone there....one pass Jed Lamb attempted was sub u/9 standard (as it failed).

Finals, then 4 in a row!

Re: Rd 18: Post Game Pandemonium: Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #69 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
In 2014 when the knives started to come out for Mick in his second year we had 7 1/2 wins and 5 losses under 2 goals. This year is looking very similar to that and we're starting to see a drop off in form of the senior players who might be starting to lose faith in the game plan which is pretty much identical to the one we played back then.

Not even remotely.similar. We were playing.a team of mid 20 plus year olds and 'headed for a flag". This team is building bottom up.
What happened to my old profile?????
 

Re: Rd 18: Post Game Pandemonium: Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #70 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
In 2014 when the knives started to come out for Mick in his second year we had 7 1/2 wins and 5 losses under 2 goals. This year is looking very similar to that and we're starting to see a drop off in form of the senior players who might be starting to lose faith in the game plan which is pretty much identical to the one we played back then.

What's Mick got to do with anything ? Or Ratts for that matter ?

Some people's obsession with past coaches. Honestly and truly.......

Re: Rd 18: Post Game Pandemonium: Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #71 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
Murphy is only going to get worse with the sleepless nights in the next couple of years. Trade him and Gibbs now and get something for them.

Whilst I agree, in theory, about trading the Smurf, unlikely he'd want to go or that anyone would really want him....he hasn't been anywhere near his best for many a year.

If he stays, the Captaincy baton should be passed....perhaps that'll help him play closer to his potential?
Finals, then 4 in a row!

Re: Rd 18: Post Game Pandemonium: Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #72 –
Quote from: flyboy77 – on
Whilst I agree, in theory, about trading the Smurf, unlikely he'd want to go or that anyone would really want him....he hasn't been anywhere near his best for many a year.

If he stays, the Captaincy baton should be passed....perhaps that'll help him play closer to his potential?

Neither Murph nor Gibbs have made a completely convincing transition to inside mids / heavy lifters IMO. They were both recruited under Pagan as creative play makers, and both played their best footy with Judd, Robbo and Brock doing the donkey work. No doubt Gibbs has fared better in this respect than Murph, and has won a B+F since then, but I just don't think when the chips are down, they are the types who can get things back on our terms.

IMO, another example of our club playing blokes in ill suited positions. Flexibility and adaptability do have their limits.

Re: Rd 18: Post Game Pandemonium: Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #73 –
Agree with the comments on Murphy and Gibbs, but Thomas has played well and is obviously popular with the boys.  After one poor game you want to chop him. Everyone plays bad in a losing side that is why you lose.
Murphy stays but lose Captaincy to Cripps.
Gibbs traded. Too many times for too long he picks and chooses which games he is going to play well.
Thomas stays as he is a good roll model.
2025... Moir of the same to come

Re: Rd 18: Post Game Pandemonium: Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #74 –
Quote from: BluePhantom – on
Agree with the comments on Murphy and Gibbs, but Thomas has played well and is obviously popular with the boys.  After one poor game you want to chop him. Everyone plays bad in a losing side that is why you lose.
Murphy stays but lose Captaincy to Cripps.
Gibbs traded. Too many times for too long he picks and chooses which games he is going to play well.
Thomas stays as he is a good roll model.

Thomas has played maybe 6 decent games all season, the rest of the time MIA ie a witches' hat.

Popularity? So what...
Finals, then 4 in a row!