Carlton Supporters Club

Genetically, the adverse effects are well understood which is one reason why the practice isn't adopted in any culture which comes to mind.

I think it gets down to prejudice, religious conviction and conservatism.
As I said earlier, I'd like to hear anyone of the contrary opinion explain how a same sex couple marrying will adversely affect either themselves, their own marriage or society as a whole, because I've yet to hear an argument that holds water.

Wall to wall soy lattes and tuna tartare with pomegranate gratin and a balsamic reduction.

Don't say you weren't warned.

I worked with a bloke whose father had eight wives.

I need to lose weight, should I turn gay?

I worked with a bloke whose father had eight wives.  Apart from having to remember the names of a great many siblings, he didn't seem to have any issues arising from his father's polygyny.

That practice has died out now as it was effectively the old men controlling access to the women and denying the younger men access.

For what it's worth I agree with you, but surely incestuous relationships or possible marriages are wholly irrelevant to the current debate, as no one is proposing any change to the law in that regard, nor is it foreseeable that any change will be proposed in the future.
I have no problem with people opposing SSM for any reason which they see fit, the ability to hold an opinion is at the heart of a free society.

I'm not seeing a problem here.

But it is also a reason that the debate should never determine the validity of marriage.
That has to be done through the method that generally all laws are changed.

Oddly enough I don't recall any debate when Howard changed the marriage act, nor can I recall any public consultation.
Furthermore, when a bill to allow SSM was before parliament in 2013 all Liberal and National Party MP's were obliged to vote as a bloc, so the current fashion in favour of public opinion leaves me somewhat bemused.

Are you asserting they pick and choose their battles?

How many jars can a man open in one day?

Think about the hot water bill!

What happens when they all enter menopause and start arguing over the thermostat, and if they don't agree about the choice of the Bachelor/Bachelorette?

I'd need to buy extra lawnmowers, vacuum cleaners, irons, washing machines and install a bigger kitchen!

There could be some advantages, hopefully some of them like painting!

What would happen if they discover I'm a misogynist?

That's probably as good a place as any to leave the silliness for now I'd say.

I'm getting hate from old white dudes!

But he is an old white dude, 35 I believe, pretending to be a young white dude!



No wonder I'm confused!

35 is not old LP; it is very young 

You do realise that right there you have suggested that incest is a downward slope from same sex marriage right?
That in the very essence of that comment, you are stating that incest is 'wrong', which is based solely on a judgment you have made on what you have been taught is acceptable as a relationship between to people.

So... how is that more or less acceptable, than a person who has been raised in a rural area, or an older person who doesn't "waste their time online or at cafes", who isn't part of the latte and smashed avocado generation and thinks that gay marriage is wrong as it normalises a relationship they believe is unnatural and and demeans a union they consider sacred?

We are all so judgmental, because we have been raised in an online politically correct generation, we are online and we all have friends who are openly homosexual. But that doesn't represent everyone and the older generations, plus rural areas have been raised under different circumstances.

My sister's grandfather if he was alive would have voted "NO".
I could be 100% certain of that.
He didn't believe in relationships out of marriage, he would never have met an openly gay person and wouldn't accept that as a legitimate relationship. He would not even leave the tv on if two people were kissing.
We was a wonderful man, but he would never have believed in SSM.

No that isn't based on lies or mistruths.
It is based on their upbringing, exactly the same way we are drawing out conclusions now