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BOB Hawke has launched a blistering attack on Malcolm Turnbull’s $122 million gay marriage postal survey calling it the “worst economic decision made by any Australian Prime Minister”.

“I genuinely believe that the decision by Malcolm Fraser to have this postal vote is the worst economic decision made by any Prime Minister since Federation,” Mr Hawke said.

Great to see that Bob is still right on the ball.

But the timing of the much-publicised event does feel awkward.

Obviously, the celebration triggered by FitzSimons seeing his wife in the white dress she wore to the 2015 Logies and asking her to remarry him on their 25th anniversary was planned years ago.

But the fact their happy day landed as millions of Australians have a piece of paper in their kitchens effectively asking them to pass judgment on the value of other people’s relationships (and lives) does feel poignant.

The Wilkinson-FitzSimons festival was broadcast to anyone with a smartphone by dozens of married, heterosexual guests, sharing images of what it means to a loving couple to be able to openly celebrate their love and have it recognised.

Yet around the country are so many couples who have been in relationships the same length of time, or longer, who do not have the basic civil right to do similar.

Anyone get the feeling this result may be close.
My Facebook friend list is pretty much a cross section,
I have some extreme religious folk and some folks with strong left wing views and it's breaking about 50-50
One of the interesting aspects is a group of Labor stalwarts who also have a strong Christian background who are voting NO.

Anyone get the feeling this result may be close.
My Facebook friend list is pretty much a cross section,
I have some extreme religious folk and some folks with strong left wing views and it's breaking about 50-50
One of the interesting aspects is a group of Labor stalwarts who also have a strong Christian background who are voting NO.

I don't think it will be close, and that's the reason the Christian conservatives are desperately trying to postpone the inevitable with alternative bills and warnings of threats to religious freedom.  I'd like to see the issue taken a little further and give folk freedom from religion 

I was listening to a Liberal MP on the radio a couple of days ago and he is expecting at least 60% in favour.  Anyway, it's only a couple of days until we will know for sure.

I've mentioned this before and I stand by it, a 60/40 vote either way is the worst outcome that could possibly occur.

In my opinion anything that suggests a result with a margin that falls in a range that is even remotely reversible will rip the country apart with protests, riots and persecution from both sides of the debate. Neither side has a monopoly on extremists. The problem is the surveys shows more than 20% of the voting public are undecided, that leaves any 60/40 vote within the reach of a draw regardless of which way it falls!

This plebiscite is perhaps the most gutless pole ever conducted by parliamentarians in the history of the nation!

For example if having a pole was such a good idea on this sort of issue, why didn't Howard give the public a vote on guns, will the gun lobby demand a pole in the future to reverse Howard's laws, and if they don't get it would it lead to protests, radical agendas and extremist actions?

Think you'll find that 80% is a bloody good sample size! And if that's 60/40 you can bet the 20% of undecided would also fall 60/40.

As for gutless? Absolutely agree. Cowardice 101.

Anyone get the feeling this result may be close.
My Facebook friend list is pretty much a cross section,
I have some extreme religious folk and some folks with strong left wing views and it's breaking about 50-50
One of the interesting aspects is a group of Labor stalwarts who also have a strong Christian background who are voting NO.