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OK, this transgender sh1te is going too far.

I was scoffed at on this forum when I suggested somewhere at some stage a B Grade male professional athlete would change gender to make a living out of their chosen career.

Well I was wrong, it won't be just B Graders. Laurel Hubbard, a former NZ Mens weightlifting champion is cleaning up while competing as a woman in the Comm Games.

I'm calling it Bullsh1t!

Bad luck for Hannah Mouncey, I feel sorry for her, but she should not be allowed to make or supplement her living out of being a Professional Female Athlete!

Bring in the chromosome tests, they are now dirt cheap and unequivocal and can form part of an athletes Bio-Passport

Laurel/Gavin snapped his arm.

This has been going on for many years. Recall the Press sisters, Tamara and Irena? They were very successful Soviet  athletes in the 1960s with big question marks over their gender even at that time - before anyone had ever heard of 'transgender".

I've got an idea for Levi!

Can we send a hat around to fund some silicone?

I have absolutely no doubt the correct decision has been made.

WTF are you on LP?  Perhaps you'd like to suggest that to Levi in person.  Of course, he is a very well balanced young man and would probably excuse your comments as the ravings of a troubled soul.

Two of my work colleagues underwent gender re-assignment and, based on their experiences, it's not something you would undergo just to have a more successful sporting career.

The fact of the matter is that gender is not binary but, like most things, is a gradation from one extreme to the other.  Those folk who fall in the middle, and who are wrongly categorised by doctors, family and/or physical appearance have every right to take whatever steps are necessary to correct nature's errors.

It's interesting that Caster Semenya is embraced by South Africans who can see beyond the physical manifestations of hyperandrogenism.  As Semenya explains, they call their approach "humanity".

It's rubbish.  Extremely lucky that their injury maintained the integrity of the competition in this case.......but for how long ?  Someday someone else, not quite good enough for Mens comp, but with that Gold Medal obsession, will make a similar decision with the express intent of winning an Olympic Gold.....and do so.... then the you know what will hit the fan.

HANNAH Mouncey has hit out at footy legend Chris Judd for his outspoken criticism of her admission to the AFLW.

The transgender footballer was sensationally blocked from registering for the 2017 AFLW Draft following an AFL backflip.

Judd was vocal supporter of the decision, following concern from officials that Mouncey would have had a physical advantage that would have been unfair on the other female competitors.

“It’s an issue that’s got to be tackled with sensitivity because of the personal journey the transgender community goes through which is something we’ll forever find hard to understand,” Judd said on Channel 9’s Footy Classified two weeks ago.

“That doesn’t mean that it should change the fairness of women’s sport or potentially the safety if you’re playing a contact sport.

“Purely, the level of testosterone that transgender women grow up with for 20-plus years puts them at a distinct advantage to put down muscle bulk, create power that other females athletes don’t have and I think the AFL were right in not allowing Hannah to play in the AFLW.”

Mouncey has held back from responding to Judd, but on Monday revealed the toll his comments took on her.

It came as the 28-year-old confirmed she will play in the VFLW with the Darebin Falcons this season and will again consider nominating for the AFLW draft in 2018.

However, the outspoken comments surrounding her VFLW season almost convinced her to give up the sport. 

“The fact my AFLW draft issue was brought up again on Footy Classified, and the comments Chris Judd made with absolutely no understanding whatsoever of the situation, really did have more of an impact on me than it otherwise might have before,” Mouncey wrote in a column for Players Voice.

“In isolation it probably wouldn’t have mattered. But after everything that had gone on regarding the AFLW draft — and had subsequently died down — having people talking about it again was enough to tip me from wanting to play, to not.

“You take it with a grain of salt but, after a while, it does wear you down. When you hear so many people talking absolute rubbish about a situation they know nothing about, you eventually get pretty bloody sick of it.

“Some people are not willing to listen to the facts. You’re being attacked just for the sake of it.”

Hannay Mouncey almost gave up entire footy dream after star’s backlash